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this is only possible if you can somehow square a pipeline company's activities as intersecting with the arc of justice. as it stands, they're actively hastening the degradation of land, water, wildlife, human life and surrounding climates everywhere they operate.

> For a business owner I can’t imagine a better situation than his workers working for free and having to do 16 hours a day under pain of death

you really can't imagine a better situation than humans owning humans?


Obviously horrible from an ethical and moral perspective. But for a morally decrepit factory owner, free/extremely cheap labor is the dream.

whether or not you agree that zionism is intrinsically jewish or not, it would serve you to understand that the poster you're arguing against does not believe that zionism is intrinsically jewish, and thus, you're talking past them.

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> It's free screen real estate.

jim, does it get any better than this?


> Imagine if your job was to sit at a fake desk all day and pretend to be annoyed by someone walking into your room.

welcome to the public sector :)


PMs have resumes too :)

- Successfully led key efforts to modernize aging platform technologies

- Directed integration of cutting-edge system-wide artificial intelligence functionality


bluntly: a lack of regulation mandating that consumer goods manufacturing responsibilities cover the lifecycle of the goods (including end-of-life).

yes i'm fully aware that recycling components is difficult and costly; if you truly believe in the market as an innovating force, you could stand to be a little more optimistic that we could make this a reality :)


You obviously are not in manufacturing.

USB-C charger reuse is now common (Apple chargers still gets the UK/EU law exemption)

RoHS prevents Pb content in recycled parts (less toxic waste)

Lithium battery recycling drop bins are next to the store entrance (financial incentives)

ATX12V/EPS12V power supply in your PC is a standard component between motherboards

Aluminum and steel instead of plastics is common (consumers like the aesthetics too)

Under the guise of recycling, problems arise when third-world people use vats of acid to strip trace gold/platinum from electronics. Others strip, relabel (laser marking), and resell aged chips as new stock... this can cause safety/reliability problems.

Some firms now use solder centrifuges to extract RoHS solder off parts, and resell the tin bar-solder back to manufacturers.

e-Waste can be a desirable resource, but few people want old Lead contaminated CRT or mixed plastic filled with inserts etc.

Companies like AMD with AM5 compatibility across chip generations should get an award for their great work reducing waste. Linux <6.0.8 kept a lot of laptops out of the landfills too, but now kernel >6.0.15 will no longer support old GPU/Laptops as NVIDIA ends legacy driver support. =3


as someone with zero love for waymo/alphabet, why would you believe it to be true?


I'm not saying it's true or not true, I'm saying I don't know what "xenophobia" has to do with evaluating the quality of workers being used in potentially life-saving situations.


I'd have a way easier time buying the idea that there's genuine concern for the quality of this work if say, few Americans old enough to do so were licensed to drive. But er, actually it's estimated at almost 90% because the standards are extremely lax.

What "potentially life-saving situations" are you envisioning?

Here's a Waymo article so you have some idea what we're actually talking about: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/

Edited: Clarify by removing negation


Nobody had mentioned any evaluation of anything. The Grandparent mentioned that xenophobia makes the headline more spicy. "Remote operator" phrase is not as attractive as "Remote operators from Phillipines" or even "Pinoys" can be.

Edit: "They finally issued a correction in the linked article that makes it clear they're not remote controlling the cars, but the headline is still really slanted and a frustrating framing"


If you think they are doing bad work because they are in country X for any X, it's xenophobia.


as long as there is a Market, there will be a market for rich boy toys.


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