> I understand that but there's a time and a place.
Dude, this is a website where a bunch of developer nerds congregate and talk shop. They're fine, this is the same kind of shit that's been happening across these kinds of sites for decades.
I feel like a lot of the comments here are from people who either weren't around for, or didn't grow up in, the era where adactio and the wider web dev scene (Zeldman, etc) were the driving force of things on the web.
If you've only been in a world with React & co, you will probably have a more difficult time understanding the point they're contrasting against.
I was around for that era (I may have made an involuntary noise when Zeldman once posted something nice about a thing I made), but being averse to "abstraction in general" is a completely alien concept to me as a software developer.
Yes, but I'm in so many words stating that that particular era of web dev was notorious for the discussion of "is this software engineering or not".
It's just such a different concept/vibe/whatever compared to modern frontend development. Brad Frost is another notable person in this overall space who's written about the changes in the field over the years.
> Getting macOS code signing and notarization working in CI was honestly the hardest part of this project. If anyone is distributing a macOS app outside the App Store via GitHub Actions, I'm happy to answer questions — the workflow is fully open source.
I'm thankful that it's largely a "once it's working, it rarely breaks". If it does break, it's usually because I have to sign in to the developer portal and accept some contract somewhere. Error messages in CI rarely indicate this is the case sadly.
Is it really a problem with the industry or is this the sort of thing where discussions go on forever on message boards where no one is in charge and people aren’t trying to work together to some actual goal, but where industry doesn’t suffer from the same problems?
The cool thing is, when you get even a whiff of this kind of tribal fan-boy bs from someone, you can just ignore it, move on, and continue learning, building, and discussing with positive productive people who share the same motivations. Life is too short to be bickering with haters in comment sections.
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