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The NYT website has gotten worse and worse over the years. Decreased contrast, JS bloat, hamburger menu, etc.


Gros Michel bananas are still around.


They went from being THE banana for much of the western world to being extremely rare as in available on a few farms in Florida & Hawaii and Asia. I was inaccurate in saying they were all wiped out.


you can buy either the Gros Michel or a very similar variety in Chinatown and Flushing in NYC. And the local green markets have several other varieties as well. There are definitely other bananas around, most people just don't care that much.


awesome. have you seen these for sale anywhere?


Bogoya bananas are Gros Michel (aka Big Mike): http://www.promusa.org/Bogoya

Tropical Wholefoods (http://www.tropicalwholefoods.com) sell packets of dried ones in the UK.


The account is 25 minutes old, so I would assume so


And as we all know, after 25 minutes of exposure to HN, one loses any and all sense of humor.


Dear lord, do the Germans know we're encroaching on their turf?


As a German, I don't find this funny.


That joke was so self-referential my brain short-circuited, well done.


It's still there:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R284ZDX360H6HC/

The site you linked to missed the first subheading, which is "Why you are reading this review"


The review pointed out the shortcomings of the first generation iPod. It isn't a review of the entire iPod line that would follow in the future. The first generation was only compatible with OS 9 and OS X, had 5G or 10G of storage, was in black and white and had a mechanical click wheel. Apple sold 236,000 in three fiscal quarters before they released the next generation. Meanwhile Nokia was selling an order of magnitude more 3310s, another portable electronic device (cell phone), every quarter. The iPod became the best music player on the market because Apple kept improving it.


There is also this Steve Ballmer reaction to the original iPhone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

It's funny in retrospect but the iPhone didn't really start to take off until the 2nd generation, when the price came down, 3rd-party developers were let in, and it added 3G.

The comments on the physical keyboard were clearly off-base looking back, though. I remember when the iPhone came out the criticism for a lack of a physical keyboard was extremely common and most competitors responded by using sliding keyboards, which clearly never caught on.


It's a black line 1px high at the top of the page above the orange bar. Here's a snapshot of it from 2011:

https://web.archive.org/web/20111006184954/http://news.ycomb...


Correction: it's 5px high


Just because he's leading in the popular vote now doesn't mean he won the popular vote. The New York Times projects that Clinton will win the popular vote once all the ballots have been counted.

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president


Right now it's projecting a margin of 0.7% It's pretty hard to call that a mandate from a clear majority. I think we've got to accept that what we have is a deeply divided country, not a highly vocal minority.


There are many people such as myself in places like NY or California that don't vote because we know our votes don't matter, so it may be that in a popular vote election we'd see a greater margin for Clinton.


I wonder what it would look like if you took the percentages that voted for each candidate and scaled it to the population of the state, and then used that to total the scaled popular vote?

Of course, there's many problems with that, foremost being that you can't assume that those that didn't vote did so in the same relative percentages of support that those that did vote. For example, I imagine there's a higher percentage of Democrats/Clinton supporters in CA and NY that didn't vote compared to the alternatives, and the opposite is likely true of predominantly red states.


When will people learn that polls and "projections" from mainstream media etc are ridiculously wrong on this.

They were wrong on Brexit. They were wrong on Trump. Maybe once more countries have results like this the polsters and media will start actually engaging with real people.


Of course they are, they have to spin it to get their base to believe they've been cheated.

The results will come in eventually that she lost the popular vote, but that feeling they cultivated will remain.


I don't mean to sound offensive but you do understand how the US election system works, right?

It is possible to win the popular vote but lose the election. I don't think anyone is spinning the fact she won the popular vote to mean she should've won.

The President is elected by the electoral college who aren't directed by popular vote but by electorates.


I don't mean to sound offensive but, how could you possibly draw that conclusion from what I said?

It seems like rather than address what I said, you decided to make baseless attacks against me.


The difference between this and Brexit is that more people voted for Brexit than against it, while more people voted for Hillary than for Trump.


The Electoral College exists for a reason, you know.

BTW the estimated popular vote is between 0.7 and 1.3% in Hillary's favor at this point , according to NYT http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president . Not really a big difference.


Over a million voters isn't a big difference? 2/5 last elections won by the loser of the popular vote seems extremely problematic.

Phrased differently, Democrats have won the popular vote in 4/5 of the most recent elections but only won office in two of them. In the 21st century, winning the most votes for president only results in a 50% success rate for Democratic presidential candidates.


> 2/5 last elections won by the loser of the popular vote seems extremely problematic.

Well, no, because it was designed this way. Popular vote is the obvious option when designing a democracy. They decided to go with something else under the specific understanding that any system other than a popular vote would allow this to happen.

> In the 21st century, winning the most votes for president only results in a 50% success rate for Democratic presidential candidates.

It will always affect Democratic candidates more negatively because they don't do as well with rural voters and the electoral college exists almost specifically to give rural voters more power. This is by design--not an oversight or misunderstanding.


I don't think it's an oversight or misunderstanding, I just think it's a complete catastrophe.


Read up on why the EC exists. I think the term that applies is "concurrent majority".

If you want a counter-example, you can look at small town and rural upstate NY and realize how their concerns are always neglected because the sheer number of NYC voters drowns out any chance they have to be heard as part of the electorate.


EC exists because the states had to agree on a mutually acceptable compromise (between large and small states, and also between slave and non-slave states) when forming US. It doesn't make it inherently valuable - it was a compromise solution, which pretty much by definition means that it's not a perfect design.


It's a shame we don't have some sort of national representation determined by the popular vote that's independent of state size or economic power...


Most human constructs exist for a reason, but that doesn't mean they're good reasons.


Yes, a very bad old reason.


Trump won the popular vote as well as the EV (at the time of this comment).


Clinton is projected to win the popular vote once all the ballots (especially those in California) are counted.


Many things have been projected this election cycle.


That's ... not a valid argument against a different point. It's 1:41 AM on the west coast and despite the NY Times clearly calling the election for Trump, Clinton still has a forecasted 1% lead in the popular vote. Given California is incredibly blue, this will most likely hold true.


Yes, I believe that the NYT are projecting the final outcome of the popular vote based on all those West Coast votes that are still being counted.


The review has to be looked at in its context. If the sales figures on Wikipedia are correct, the device he reviewed sold just 236,000 units in Q1-Q3 of 2002. Apple didn't sell more than a million iPods in a quarter until 2004, at which point the full-size device had 4x the storage, a click wheel, support for Windows, and a color screen (optional); the Mini was then in its second generation.


Look at this thread for more details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6068732


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