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I suggest https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommend... , they also have a spreadsheet to track sessions.


Thanks for the suggestion, yeap their resources are definitely solid for beginners

That said, I'm not sure how directly it would help in the context of Workout.cool, can you provide more context ?

Maybe when adding structured training plans? is that the kind of use case you had in mind?

Would love to hear how you think it could fit! Thanks


I really like this analysis. But what about companies allowing agents to interact natively (via API or similar) getting more of the agents inbound since agents are more optimised to go there? If people want to use agents it will cause a lot of lost revenue for companies not allowing agents to interact natively.


It’s only lost revenue if the interactions were providing revenue in the first place. And for consumer tech, if you take away the ability to control the ad-funnels and engagement knobs, there is no revenue to gain. Why do you think all APIs got locked down? Nowadays even pure html delivery is getting locked down to prevent scraping. You think the SEO optimized recipe click holes are incentivized to deliver the content without the ads?

I mean, it’s not impossible that consumers will ignore sites and services that don’t play with their AI. But even so, the content providers would need to find alternative revenue streams – otherwise they’d be bleeding money.

My prediction is that tech companies will continue to compete for dominance over the entry points, apps and human interactions. It will be an adversarial space where coalitions of vertically integrated walled gardens can work. Basically how it is already.


Check Manna.


There should be also a factor about resource consumption. See here: https://lorenzopieri.com/pgii/


An interesting point from a philosophical perspective!

But if we'd take this into consideration would it mean that 1st world engineer is by definition less inteligent than 3rd world one?

I think the (completely reasonable) knee jerk reaction is a definsive one, but I can imagine absolutarian regime escapee working side-by-side an engineer groomed in expensive, air conditioned lecture rooms. In this imaginary scenario escapee, even if slower and less efficient at the problem at hand would have to be more intelligent generally.


That's a bit silly.

Yes, resource consumption is important. But your car guzzling a lot of gas doesn't mean he drives slower. It just means it drives slower per mol of petrol consumed.

It's good to know whether your system has a high or low 'bang for buck' metric, but that doesn't directly affect how much bang you get.


Also perhaps a factor (with diminishing returns) for response speed?

All else equal, a student who gets 100% on a problem set in 10 minutes is more intelligent than one with the same score after 120 minutes. Likewise an LLM that can respond in 2 seconds is more impressive than one which responds in 30 seconds.


> a student who gets 100% on a problem set in 10 minutes is more intelligent than one with the same score after 120 minutes

According to my mathematical model, the faster student would have higher effectiveness, not necessarily higher intelligence. Resource consumption and speed are practical technological concerns, but they're irrelevant in a theorical conceptualization of intelligence.


If you disregard time, all computers have maximal intelligence, they can enumerate all programs and compute answers to any decidable question.


Yeah speed is a key factor in intelligence. And actually one of the biggest differentiators in human iq measurements


Humans are a bit annoying that way, because it's all correlated.

So a human with a better response time, also tends to give you more intelligent answers, even when time is not a factor.

For a computer, you can arbitrarily slow them down (or speed them up), and still get the same answer.


Maybe. If I could ask a AI to come up with a 50% efficient mass market solar panel, I don’t really care if it takes a few weeks or a year if it can solve that though. I’m not sure if inventiveness or novelness of solution could be a metric. I suppose that is superintelligence rather than AGI? And by then there would be no question of what it is


> response time

Imagine you take an extraordinarily smart person, and put them on a fast spaceship that causes time dilation.

Does that mean that they are stupider while in transit, and they regain their intelligence when it slows down?


Who is a better free-thrower, someone who can hit 20 free throws per minute on Earth, or the same thrower who logged 20 million free throws in the apparent two years he was gone but comes back ready for retirement?


No, because intelligence is relative to your local context.


Why should one kind of phenomenon which slows down performance on the test be given a special "you're more intelligent than you seem" exception, but not others?

If we are required to break the seal on the black-box and investigate the exactly how the agent is operating in order to judge its "intelligence"... Doesn't that kinda ruin the up-thread stuff about judging with equations?


The point is that the wall-clock measuring the test-taker's performance should be in the same context as the test-taker.

They will still complete the task in 70 local minutes, even if that's eighty of an outside observer's.


Not sure if it has been benchmarked, but I've called this technique the "for-loop of thought". :)


One possibility is total cooperation on the basic needs (free for all) and a "capitalistic" system on the luxury needs. See https://lorenzopieri.com/post_scarcity/



This is the reason why I left academia for startups... Seems like a better way (not perfect by any means) to innovate, actually doing things.

PS: I would be happy to connect, you can find my socials in my bio.



The previous poster is gwern... Regardless, peer review does not mean that the arguments of the paper are correct (and viceversa), as gwern just shown.


The previous poster is not gwern. Gwern posted after. Gwern yet again agreed with me after failing 4 times in a row to get a paragraph without the letter e in it. (He finally got it on the 5th time...)

Reading comprehension!


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