You make a fair point about terminology. To be precise: our encryption is client-side AES-256-GCM encryption of the stored transcript meaning once transcription completes, the text is encrypted in your browser before being saved, and we can't read the stored transcript without your password. The audio is processed on our GPU during transcription and then deleted."Zero-knowledge" was used loosely a more accurate term would be "client-side encrypted storage". The server does see the audio during processing (that's how GPU transcription works), but the final stored transcript is encrypted with a key derived from your password that never leaves your browser. Update our terminology to be more precise and also the HN thread title. Thanks for the feedback and I hope something in you lives a little again.
> The server does see the audio during processing (that's how GPU transcription works), but the final stored transcript is encrypted with a key derived from your password that never leaves your browser.
You conveniently omit mentioning that the server also sees the transcript before returning it to the client side browser. Whether it is "immediately" erased, is something the client must trust the server to do. You might as well save yourself the roundtrip by encrypting server side, returning the key, then deleting it, same outcome.
Thanks for pushing us on this, you're right. We've updated all our terminology and documentation to be fully transparent:
- Security page now explicitly states the server sees audio + transcript during processing
- Privacy policy and terms updated with a bit clearer language about what's protected vs what's not
For users who need true end-to-end privacy where audio never touches shared servers, we're launching Private Cloud and Self-Hosted options: https://stt.ai/private-cloud/ Your feedback directly shaped these changes. Appreciate it.
I am shocked at the discourse over this. I'm either ahead of the curve or behind; but its undeniable that AI can and does write most the code. Not trivial, if you spend some time and dig deep into simple appearing web apps like https://microphonetest.com or https://internetspeed.my you'd be amazed at how fast they went from mvp to full feature. Trivial to think anyone could pull off something like that in hours.
So, just an advertisement for what you built? As for the apps, what's so great about them? I'm genuinely curious.
With respect to the microphone test site I don't need it as my OS provides everything I need for this and I also don't trust your site (that's just by default for what you're asking to have access or my machine).
As for the speed test, OK? There are far better options that already exist and are fully open source.
Building things that are trivial, or already exist aren't exciting. It's great that you feel you went from MVP to "full feature". But IMO both of these are MVPs as they stand. They're not worth much to anyone but you, most likely.
The final thing I'll say is both of these examples have the vibe coded look. It's just like text, images and audio now: AI content is easy to pick out. I'd gather things will get better, but for now there's low likelihood I'm interacting with these in any meaningful way and zero chance I'm buying anything from sites like these.
These offer nothing but free services. Even if they have a vibe coding feel. The ctr is dismal anyways from HN. Its simply astonishing the rate these allow of development, yet it seems the vast amount of people don't see it. Crazy
Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history. Perhaps my examples aren't as stellar as what's possible to achieve. But I only use those as simple examples, there are far better, made by many others whom don't comment on this forum.
> Building your own utopia is now ever more achievable than I think any other time in human history.
The problem I have with this type of perspective is that it's so myopic you don't seem to understand this is not even remotely anything I'd consider a "utopia". Some vibe-coded AI apps do not solve for that IMO. If that's all it takes for you then I say: enjoy.
Looking at both of these I'm struggling to understand why AI exponentially increased the productivity and quality of either of these examples. Especially since I don't see open source code anywhere, I can't get a good gauge of quality either.
I've built tools like this on the web in the past. They were never more than a weekends worth of work to begin with.
I am looking for exponential increases, with quality to back it up.
Tools like this in the past? Open source isn't even necessary to prove the point, you want to see exponential increase, closing half an open source projects and year long pending bugs in span of minutes? https://github.com/nadermx/backgroundremover/commits?author=...
This commit graph seemingly shows that they fixed a couple bugs over like a week. Period that involves changing like six lines of code. That code has no abstractions no structure and several problems you could poke holes in. While it may work and that’s great for whoever benefits, this isn’t very convincing as I can currently write more than six lines of code per day by hand
Its not anything was wrong with it. It was more an excersize in adding utilities and features to see how far and fast it can go with a few prompts. And what if you want historical speed tests for the year? Need to store that data some where. If anything its futile in either regard, but one just feels more fun.
Honestly, I'm just flabbergasted at how incredible these tools are. I was able to build https://www.standup.net in a few days. Also was able update an old project https://www.microphonetest.com in a matter of hours with a plethora of features. Its truly addicting.
So maybe they shouldn't depend on just search traffic. Their increased spend would suggest they got enough people to try and figure out alternative methods to attract editors and/or traffic.
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