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First crypto now AI.

I just want to play video games so I don’t have to interact with people


This might be the case already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

Even the multiplayer video games have bots...

Some of the users here are not real at all.

It's logical, if you want to push your product, be promoted on the first page of HN then you have to post fake comments using bots.

-> You get credibility and karma/trust for future submissions, and that's pretty much all you have to do.

Costs about 2 USD, can bring 2'000 USD in revenue, why wouldn't you want to "hustle" (like YC says) ?

Bots are here to grow, it will take time as for now the issue is still small, but you may already have interacted with bots, so do I.


Soon, you might have an AI partner, and never have to interact with people.

New thermal paste/pad might help

This game was amazing at launch, recently tried it again and it’s become trash

Market regulators are working hard to ensure regulatory capture for the big players.

No but it’s a perverse incentive for people in power

You can buy a new mainboard for a framework…

I’ve seen his interviews on YouTube and I’m not sure if he is a Russian asset or just says things contrary to the western narrative. There is a propaganda war.

So what hard evidence that he is working for the Russians?


Passion over paycheques

It means lots of people will give up the hobby.

Let's be real, the twitch FPS CoD players aren't going to give that up and play a boring life simulator.

This has the potential to harm a lot of businesses from hardware to software companies, and change the lives of millions of people.


PC gaming will be fine even without 8K 120fps raytracing. It will be fine even if limited to iGPUs. Maybe even better off if it means new titles are actually playable on an average new miniPC. More realistically I guess we get an AMD/Intel duopoly looking quite similar instead.

It will probably be a bigger blow to people who want to run LLMs at home.


That doesn't sem very plausible, how many people are driven away from CounterStrike or like League of Legends because the graphics weren't as good as Cyberpunk or whatever?

Theres a LOT of games that compete with AAA-massive-budget games on aggregate like Dwarf Fortress, CS, League, Fortnite, people are still playing arma 2, dayz, rust, etc Rainbow Six: Siege still has adherents and even cash-payout tournaments. EvE: Online, Ultima Online, Runescape, still goin'

These games have like no advertising and are still moneymakers. Eve and UO are like 20 and 30 years old. Heck, Classic WoW!


I wonder if all the games you named combined surpass what Mihoyo makes off the likes of Genshin Impact.

Dunno (maybe wow?) but is it the most expensive graphics hardware giving AAA all the money/air or because they have a great reputation as games, solid consistent advertising, a strong network effect and a spot on the top of new release lists?

I feel like league of legends has, wrt the genshin $s, I honestly haven’t checked!


Do gacha mobile games even require high-end graphics? Genshin Impact doesn't support native ray tracing.

Plenty of titles that support ray tracing eg wuthering waves.

Many gacha titles now offer amazing pc graphics on nvidia cards compared to mobile.


CoD is currently 300GB on disk due to all the textures. I suspect a lot of players would be happy with a modest regression in fidelity if it means the game can run smoothly on affordable devices and leave some room for their other games too.

Most CoD players are on console or mobile, not PC

Huh? No? It means that the overall platform is already at 'good enough' level. There can always be an improvement, but in terms of pure visuals, we are already past at a point, where some studios choose simple representations ( see some 2d platformers ) as a stylistic choice.

It gonna be ok.


My pc is good enough for now but it’s years old and when it dies, then what? You want me to give up gaming and start hanging out at your local bar?

Why would nvidia not making gaming cards make you “give up gaming”?

It is not a question of want. Gaming will exist in some form so I am simply uncertain what you are concerned about.

Can you elaborate a little? What, exactly, is your concern here? That you won't have nvidia as a choice? That AMD will be the only game in town? That gpu market will move from duopoly ( for gaming specifically ) to monopoly? I have little to go on, but I don't really want to put words in your mouth based on minimal post.


I want a local gaming machine that I control.

Not a locked ecosystem console or a streaming service with lag!

I think if nvidia leaves the market for AI, why wouldn’t AMD and intel, with the memory cartel. So DIY market is gone. That kills lots of companies and creators that rely on the gaming market.

It’s a doom spiral for a lot of the industry. If gaming is just PlayStation and switch and iGPUs there is a lot less innovation in pushing graphics.

It will kill the hobby.


There was no DIY market on 8 and 16 bit home computers with fixed hardware, yet bedroom coding (aka indies) not only did thrive, they were the genesis of many AAA publishers, and to this day those restrictions keep the Demoscene alive and recognised as World culture heritage.

PC was largely ignored for gaming, until finally EGA/VGA card, alongside AdLib/Soundblaster, became widespread in enough households to warrant development costs.


Who cares about "innovation in pushing graphics"? It's arguable that video game graphics reached 'good enough' a couple of console generations ago. Maybe as early as seventh gen.

You are so quickly accepting a wild assumption -- that all 3 GPU major producers will exit the market. The "memory cartel" bets on people being impatient and COVID has shown that people will just wait out the terrible GPU prices and come back to buy when the prices are reasonable again.

That cartel is imply flying high right now, convinced they got the market by the balls.

They don't. Just give it most of 2026 and you'll see.


Panasonic left the MLCC market and yet you can still buy capacitors.

Interesting. Does nvidia offer control? Last time I checked they arbitrarily updated their drivers to degrade unwelcome use case ( in that case, for crypto ). It sounds to me like the opposite of that.

Separately, do you think they won't try to ingratiate themselves to gamers again once AI market changes?

Do you not think they are part of the cartel anyway ( and the DIY market exists despite that )?

<< So DIY market is gone.

How? One use case is gone. Granted, not a small one and one with an odd type of.. fervor, but relatively small nonetheless. At best, DIY market shifts to local inference machines and whatnot. Unless you specifically refer to gaming market..

<< That kills lots of companies and creators that rely on the gaming market.

Markets change all the time. EA is king of the mountain. EA is filing for bankruptcy. Circle of life.

Edit: ALso, upon some additional consideration and in the spirit of christmas, fuck the streamers ( aka creators ). With very, very limited exceptions, they actively drive what is mostly wrong with gaming these days. Fuck em. And that is before we get to the general retardation they contribute to.

<< It’s a doom spiral for a lot of the industry.

How? For AAA? Good. Fuck em. We have been here before and were all better for it.

<< If gaming is just PlayStation and switch and iGPUs there is a lot less innovation in pushing graphics.

Am I reading it right? AMD and Intel is just for consoles?

<< It will kill the hobby.

It is an assertion without any evidence OR a logical cause and effect.

So far, I am not buying it.


As a parent I very much agree about the streamers tbh.

Firmly in old-guy “this content should not exist” camp


Cod devs aren't stupid. They will design a game for the hardware their target market can get their hands on.

Let's be real, CoD only appeals to a small community in the whole planet.

It’s only one of if not the best selling game every year.

Totally niche appeal, yeah right.


Millions of people.

There are many more millions of gamers that don't even care CoD exists, it fits a small percentage on the world of gaming.

CoD has less players than Team Fortress 2 currently, according to Valve's charts: https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed . And TF2 has ancient graphics.

Steam isn’t a good metric because they sell the game on Battle.Net.

CoD is also huge on Playstation.


But if it didn't exist, those people would likely be playing something else.

If no pc hardware exists eventually there will be no games to play. Then you will have a bunch of angry gamers at the park pissing everyone off.

If my hobby is ruined and I can’t have fun, I’m going to be an asshole and make everyone else unhappy.


Ahaha are you trolling for entitled gamers? Yeah wouldn't want the real world having to face those. No worries: as long as there are people willing to drop money into expensive gear, somebody will sell it.

>It means lots of people will give up the hobby.

Oh, we can only hope!

>This has the potential to harm a lot of businesses from hardware to software companies, and change the lives of millions of people.

Including millions of gamers, but for the better.


You hate gamers? Why?

Why can’t you let people enjoy their hobby?


For the same reason I don't like alcoholism or meth use or gambling or porn addiction, even when the person "enjoys them".

That's one hell of a long shot. Are your views applicable to the rest of the entertainment industry? There's plenty of people wasting away in front on Netflix, after all. Or why just entertainment, any "useless" hobbies that are repeatedly done for fun but have no real productive output. Is any comparable "pleasurable" activity that also hooks a minority of people in an unhealthy way bad, or just gaming?

But what's most insane is trying to draw any parallels between gaming and these other things - something that was literally engineered to ruin human lives, biologically (hard drugs) or psychologically (gambling). The harm and evil caused by these two industries is incomprehensible (especially the legal parts of them, like alcohol and casino gambling/sports betting/online gambling), and trying to fit gaming in among them both downplays the amount of suffering inflicted by gambling and hard drugs, as well as villainizes normal people - like the hundreds of millions of people who play games in a sane, non-problematic way or indie game devs who make games because they want to express themselves artistically.

Anyways, I gotta log off HN for a while. I can feel my gaming withdrawal kicking in. I've bankrupted myself four times by only spending my money on gaming, and I've been in and out of rehab centres and ERs as I've been slowly destroying my body with gaming in a spiral of deadly addiction. I think I'll have to panhandle and threaten strangers on the street to buy some Steam cards.


I had a roommate who failed out of college because he was addicted to Everquest (yes, Everquest, and yes I am middle-aged). Your last paragraph is barely even hyperbolic. Do you think unemployed young men who live at home with their parents, do little to no physical activity, spending most of their time playing videogaming and/or trolling on the internet are not stuck destroying their bodies (and minds) in a spiral of deadly addiction? Maybe you are a functional gamer, but there are many, many gamers who are not and this technology is maybe a quasi effective cope for our punishing society writ large, but from the outside, gaming addicts appear to be living a sad and limited life.

Or to put it more succinctly, would you want your obituary to lead with your call of duty prowess?


>functional gamer

Excellent satire.


>That's one hell of a long shot. Are your views applicable to the rest of the entertainment industry?

Yes.


You must be the life of the party, if the party was a funeral.

I don't like football. Can we add football fans into the mix of people we're punching down on, alongside the gamers and the meth heads?

Thank you for your consideration.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4l4UWZGxvoc

Seems like the ecosystem is rapidly evolving


What it kinda reminds me of is PS3 cluster era. Now if I could do something similar to the minisforum..

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