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I remember a long time ago on Reddit I saw a post saying (paraphrasing) "AMA: PayPal locked up $600,000 of my money because my video game is selling so quickly they think it is a scam." Turns out this was Notch selling early alpha versions of Minecraft off his personal website, which totally did look like a scam at the time.

I didn’t get an impression that it looked like a scam. What makes you think that? The game was free before he started selling it.

With some of the promises Notch made back then it almost was a scam.

Venmo is owned by PayPal

Yes but they drew a distinction, so I was just clarifying

My first reaction to this was: Matt Levine will need to cut his vacation short. Again.

> The plaintiff is a 20-year-old California woman identified as K.G.M. because she was a minor at the time of her alleged personal injury.

I didn't realize this was literally a single person claiming they were personally injured by literally every major social media company. How does that even work? What laws are purported to have been broken here? I wholeheartedly support some sort of regulatory framework around social media, but this specific case seems like a cash grab. It was already successful too, since Snap and TikTok have settled.


From a Rolling Stone article:

"K.G.M.’s lawsuit was selected as a so-called bellwether case and is proceeding first among more than a thousand personal-injury complaints under a coordinated, court-managed process meant to eliminate the risk of inconsistent rulings at subsequent trials."


"How does that even work?"

There is a master complaint and each plaintiff files a short-form complaint

Because the injuries will vary from plaintiff to plaintiff class action will not suffice. This is why each plaintiff must file individually

To learn more: https://www.jpml.uscourts.gov/articles

Here is the master complaint for the personal injury plaintiffs

https://dn710108.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.40...

Here is the short-form complaint for personal injury (for individuals)

https://dn710108.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.40...

Here is the master complaint for the local government/school district plaintiffs

https://dn710108.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.40...

Here is the short-form complaint for public nusiance (for local governments, school districts)

https://dn710108.ca.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.cand.40...

Hypothetical for discussion

Corporation's lobbyists, or some other circumstances, prevent the establishment of any meaningful regulatory framework that would effectively produce a desired change in the corporation's behaviour

However the threat of thousands of "cash grabs" through private litigation causes the desired change in the corporation's behaviour even in the absence of a regulatory framework

What are the pros and cons

For example, one could argue that the "cash grabs" pose a greater problem than the corporate behaviour that would occur in their absence, or vice versa


My siblings are better informed, I just wanted to say, settlements don’t get paid unless there’s a risk the plaintiff could win.

Not true at all. In fact settlements mostly happen because it would cost significantly more for a company to go through discovery and argue their case in court regardless of the eventual result. And court systems strongly encourage settlements to save their own time. There an entire industry of patent trolls and sleazy personal injury lawyers in business because of this.

The American jury system is always a wildcard.

A judge can be predicted, it's all about facts and evidence, 12 randos means rolling the dice.


I was sued. I was 19 years old working as a painter for a dishonest contractor that paid crap wages. I nosed out of a parking lot after work one day to see around a line of cars turning in and a big sedan ploughed into my little econobox. Several years later, as the statute of limitations was about to run out, the driver of the sedan sued me. My insurance companies first move, before doing any discovery, was to offer her $50k. She said no, so discovery began. It turned out she'd been mis-prescribed an anti-psychotic to create the symptoms she was suing me for having caused. The case was thrown out. The insurance company's legal bills ended up being much less than $50k, but the way it worked was they took a guess at the break even point, offered a bit less than that, and made an offer.

That's not to say this is how it works when Meta is on trial. I just thought it was useful perspective on the nature of settlements.


In legal terms they often call this a "nuisance fee", although it's normally much smaller when the defendant thinks there is a 100% chance they will win but just wants to avoid all the costs.

Not sure about that, don't defendants sometimes settle because they don't want the publicity of a trial or don't want their dirty laundry being aired in discovery?

Not always. Sometimes it’s as simple as: settling is cheaper than proving you’re “clear” at trial.

No one wants to go through discovery if they don't have to. These companies are flush with cash and can pay to make that problem go away.

She alleges that social media applications deliberately got her addicted, knowing that might lead to the depression and suicidality she experienced.

She's not wrong. The discovery process has shown that such decisions were made by Meta and Zuck himself, knowingly, in the face of research that opposed their goals.

He’s getting old, but not over 40 yet.


All of these things they're saying are unethical, but not illegal, right?


Facebook is PHP ironically.


It was once upon a time, hence them moving to HHVM to interpret it, but it’s been all but replaced with a PHP spinoff named Hacklang now.


I think in 2026 Facebook is a conglomeration of a bunch of things... Definitely not just PHP anymore.


> You might fear that people will start arriving at 1:07pm, but I have seen the opposite. They respect the new time. They arrive by 1:05pm, ready to work.

We do the :05 thing and this is exactly what happens every meeting: all of them end up starting between :07 and :10 since people leave their desk to find the room at :05.


What are good Firefox alternatives these days that will run a proper uBlock origin (not chrome’s watered down manifest v3 version)?


I just run Brave and I don't even remember what ads look like.


Maybe this is a lever that they now have to finally break free of their total dependence on Google. Get someone like Meta to pay them to be the default AI model / interface.


Yeah. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” may be a statement of current fact, not of values.


Wow, to be honest I hadn't thought of it that way but that might be exactly what's on the horizon. Hard to survive on a search licensing deal in a world where LLMs threaten to eclipse search, but it may mean that LLMs want to compete to be in the browser space.


So, jump out of the frying pan and into the fire?


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