Call me crazy, and maybe I'm just out of touch, but something seems... off with the reaction to this. The amount of people on reddit that I'm seeing gloating, openly celebrating this, it's really just something I have never seen before. Not even the Trump assassination attempt had this kind of reaction.
All I'm saying, is that if I was a US adversary, I would absolutely be spinning up a million LLMs to post the most provocative possible stuff. The technology absolutely exists - just yesterday sama@ was talking about the dead internet theory. I'm worried that someone is going to see that horrifying video of the shooting, and then see all these horrifying comments online, and do something equally horrifying.
Yeah, fair enough. No doubt there is some real-ness to the sentiment. I do think it's an easy way to hurt the US to fan the flames of divisive things like this. But at the end of the day flame doesn't exist without kindling... I guess it's just the world we live in. How depressing.
Their entire business is around the facilitation of illegal gambling, large scale fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, terrorist financing, and drug trafficking, with a tiny percentage of semi-legitimate users. Their founders have consistently behave like narcissist, who are always the victim in every situation and believe the rules shouldn’t apply to them.
It would be shocking if they weren’t always disgracing themselves
I saw an ad[0] recently and was in disbelief it was an actual, official Coinbase ad. It’s making fun of the lower class and deprived areas of the UK with the implication people should gamble away their money on crypto in hopes of a better life.
But don't worry, it will soon be flagged. Many HNers with flagging rights don't want "politics" on this website, apparently. They live on another plane.
So you think Elon is not interested in numbers? Or you think Tesla employees are presenting fabricated data to him?
The phenomenon in that video is only possible when management is heavily disconnected from ground truths & data, but that seems the opposite to how Musk's companies are run.
Definitely cool tech, but let's be real, this is an extremely expensive alternative to the technology of the webcam that gets you nothing more than a 3D view of the other person. I imagine this will go to the graveyard soon enough.
People rooting against SpaceX are just rooting against Musk TBH. That's why all these launches have so much negativity these days. And these people are very online. But viewed through a neutral lens, it's a clear positive for humanity that these rockets are being developed. I wouldn't let the online discourse put a bad taste in your mouth.
> through a neutral lens, it's a clear positive for humanity that these rockets are being developed
Musk's cuts at USAid have caused an ongoing humanitarian crisis and some 300,000 deaths, mostly children[0]. I think if you're coming from a neutral, utilitarian point of view then SpaceX's role in this atrocity outweighs any realistic estimate of benefit to humanity.
I guess by that line of thinking, everyone who has ever been involved with Musk has a "role in the atrocity". Everyone who ever bought a Tesla, everyone who ever used PayPal. Now that I think about it... SpaceX launches US government satellites... and the US is a democracy... that means every single person in the US is culpable. Thank you for opening my eyes, I hate everyone and everything now.
You’re deflecting. You can’t claim to be objective and negate the fact this man alone by his totally insane actions has been causing tremendous harms by preventing people from getting life saving drugs just .. for no reason than showing he could do it.
Ok, sure man. Musk bad. That's what you wanted me to say, right? Anyway, I'll continue rooting for SpaceX and Starship, because I've loved space and sci-fi ever since I was a kid and this is the only organization that seems to be moving us toward that future.
It's probably impossible to get a neutral take on Musk or any of his companies' operations anymore. The guy's a lightning rod for the extremes of both sides. There is too much breathless, gushing fandom (OP's comment), too much negative detraction and belittling, and very little actual neutral engineering talk that happens in any of these forums.
It's a shame to me because I don't really give a damn about the guy, I just like space and think rockets are cool, but we have a situation where a potentially revolutionary rocket is being overshadowed by the CEOs antics to the point that people are rooting for the rocket to fail. It's tragic, in a way.
I should also say that HN is much more positive on SpaceX than, e.g. ArsTechnica. There’s no point in reading the comments over there. At least here the criticism of SpaceX is interesting and well-thought-out (usually).
In general, the opinion on SpaceX among space enthusiasts seems to be overall very positive, and it is usually only people who are not very interested in space that comment negatively on SpaceX -- but only since Musk got involved with the Republicans. Or at least that's the case on Ars Technica, which tends to be pretty partisan.
Ah, yes, of course. I wasn't trying to make quite the esoteric point. More specifically that currently, if starship succeeds, it will be good business for SpaceX and enable them to launch many more satellites around earth at a cheaper cost but greater scale. I don't think this will be much of a positive for humans in general (beyond the current state).
Now if the lofty goals of enabling Mars and Moon habitation come to fruition, I would take a different view. For now I consider achieving that goal to be science fiction, but hopefully that changes in my lifetime.
I'm sorry but I blame the old powers like the NYT a lot more for the current predicament than I blame the current president. For all their hemming and hawing about China leading "global production in multiple industries" they sure were silent during the 80s, 90s, and 2000s when the business elite of the country were busy offshoring and selling to the highest bidder to make this situation a reality. I think the corporate media in this country is an absolute disgrace.
It's like, what are they even trying to say here? Do they mean to imply that if Trump hadn't cut funding to public research or whatever, this situation would be fundamentally different? Completely ridiculous. If they're mad about the rise of China, then they should be blaming the people who allowed China to catch up in exchange for a quick buck.
I think the ultimate point is that capitalists don't care about your country, whatever country that is. Capitalism is the least bad economic system discovered so far, but the success or failure of any particular country is irrelevant in it. If a country wants to be successful under capitalism, its leaders (and ultimately citizens) must choose policies that make it successful. You can't rely on businesses, because capital has no homeland.
You're absolutely right. It's not intelligence in the way we have traditionally understood it. It's a pattern matching system that uses massive scale to handle a vast number of cases, and it's very useful, but it routinely fails on even basic tasks. The labs are just playing whack a mole with the failure cases because fundamentally the architecture doesn't have common sense in the same way we do. Your moniker of "statistical code synthesis" is probably more accurate but this is a capex intensive technology and you're gonna get a lot more investor interest by playing to people's imagination with terms like "intelligence" or "superintelligence".
All I'm saying, is that if I was a US adversary, I would absolutely be spinning up a million LLMs to post the most provocative possible stuff. The technology absolutely exists - just yesterday sama@ was talking about the dead internet theory. I'm worried that someone is going to see that horrifying video of the shooting, and then see all these horrifying comments online, and do something equally horrifying.