Already back in ye olde times, "let me google that for you" which I see so often posted on Reddit. Sometimes you just wanna exchange with a human, and absorb some of their wisdom, which is the whole point of asking a question. Not so different than wanting to shop at a butcher you can establish a relationship with, rather than a faceless supermarket meat counter.

Well said. It is all about trust.

Just like "etiquette" accomplishes no purpose except letting people easily figure out who put the effort into learning it, vs. who didn't.

Back then this distinguished by class, but ironically, today where's so easy to learn, it finally distinguishes by merit.

I don't think anybody would complain about working code. Your PR would explain your reasoning and choice of solution, and that on its own could make or break through acceptance criteria. At least it would by mine.

Errors are fine too. Just not negligence.

Yeah, what happened to "review your own code first".

Even before AI I used to ban linting so I could spot and reject code that clearly showed no effort was put in it.

First occurrence of "undreadable" got a note, and a second one got a rejection. And by "undreadable" I do not intend missing semicolons or parenthesis styles or meaningless things like that. I mean obscured semantics or overcrowding and so on.

They do exist; if "professional" means "hired" it has no bearing on quality, it is not in any shape equivalent to "judicious" nor "careful". If salary goes into "push features" that's gonna be the only incentive.

Or paying maintainers and contributors.

Horrible degrading take. Be the change you want to see. Don't fuel the fire that's burning you.

If something's not happening, something else's making it impractical. Saying this as a 10+ years product manager and R&D person with 20+ more years of engineering on top.

I also had to deal with "managers are just complicating things" or "users are stupid and don't understand anything"; do you think I complained? No, I had engineers barter trust of their ingenuity with trust of my wisdom, and brought them to customer calls and presented them to users almost like royalty, which made them incredibly respectful as soon as they saw what kind of crap users had to deal with.

The industry is broken now, this is just a response to that. Leadership and product don't have any respect for the code, why would engineers have any respect for the ticketing process.

Thats an unreasonable asymmetric effort demand, "Your code does not matter but my precious tickets must have elbow grease put into them."

> The industry is broken now, this is just a response to that.

No, your behavior is the cause of that.

The entire industry isn't broken. There are good company cultures and bad company cultures just like always.

At least own up to what you're doing. Don't blame "the industry" when you're the one doing the thing.

Or.. both!

The industry is broken. It's broken in the same sense the railroad industry is broken. It has reached the point of abundance, where we're doing things that don't need doing. That won't get done in an efficient market. But since we're not in an efficient market, there are globs of capital thrown at people building stuff that.. doesn't stand a chance of actually making any return on capital.

But while it lasts, us, the glorified machine-minders (just like railroad engineers, well, minded the engines), get paid large lumps of money, through large hordes of managers, arguing on minutia of conversion optimization, and fundamentally, being paid enough to not to try and do something else, perhaps competitive.

And that is broken. Especially for the "smarter of us" - the graduation ceremony of my physics department rings true - we've trained you to discover the secrets of universe and reach the stars, and most of us will use it.. to gain an edge at Lehman Brothers.

(And I think the root of this problem, is the abundance of low-risk capital, from people who expect a small return and a pension that lasts for decades in retirement)

> No, your behavior is the cause of that.

My behavior is a reaction to the environment I am in. And currently the environment is push slop code as fast as possible. So being able to claw back just a little bit of my time from the people pushing this stupidity is a small pro in a sea of cons.

What about "your milestones, roadmap, discussions and strategies do not matter, but my precious code had elbow grease put into it."

Petty and getting nowhere. Everyone loses. How about product and engineers also disrespect sales, and sales disrespects customers and everyone else.

I really don't get why this is even a question. Good people do good stuff, and bad people make bad companies.

It's slippery. You're swamped with low-effort PRs, can't possibly test and review all of them. You will become a visible bottleneck, and guess whether it's easier to defend quality vs. "blocking a lot of features" which "seem to work". If you're tied by your salary as a reviewer, you will have to let go, and at the same time you'll suffer the consequences of the "lack of oversight" when things go south.

The Board has decided that we can no longer afford artisanal, hand-crafted software, and that machine-made will suffice for nearly all use cases.

Enshittification Enterprise Edition.

The board wants their cake and eat it too.

They want AI to write all code but also still be able to fire humans for failure, because an AI can't be blamed right now.

Boy I can't wait for this employment norm. Fired because you weren't allowed to take the time to review important code but "You are responsible"

I wish Executives were required to be that "responsible"

Just reject a bunch of PRs two days before code freeze. They can go next sprint. In fact ask AI to provide a plausible reason for rejection. If anyone overrides, you are covered.

Hey! Would you consider trialing some help, even part-time initially, and pro-bono, to see how it goes? As a developer since childhood, and product manager for most of my career, with (I dare say) some out-of-the-box, simplicity, "cheap is best" professional deviation, and sex-positivity in my personal and artistic life, maybe there's something we can get together on? Give me a shout! zenojevski at gmail dot com, or https slash slash zeno dot love. At the very least we can have some fun and maybe keep writing :D Zeno

A better name might be “sometimes function”