Where does one draw the line? Hard drugs?

As an individualist, I believe competent adults should be allowed to draw their own line. But if I had to compromise, hard drugs does seem like a more reasonable line.

I've always thought there is no need for drugs to be illegal, because if they are really bad then nature provides it own penalty and if they arent bad then they shouldnt be banned anyway

Refined sugar might be considered a "hard drug".

Junk food probably kills more people than hard drugs now.

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You don't.

So does alcohol, which is generally considered a "soft" drug.

And the same can't be said of drugs? Many people take psychoactive substances responsibly, and only a small percent develop problems with dependency and abuse.

Hell, I'd be willing to bet that more people who eat junk food become effective "junk food addicts" and develop resultant health problesm as a percentage than do people who use LSD, MDMA, or even cocaine.

Have you ever known anyone to overeat on cauliflower until they get obese and diabetic? Let alone a population of three million people doing it?

The food is designed to be a hyperstimulus, moreish beyond anything humans would find to eat in the wild.

How is the food not the problem?

cauliflower is low in calories, so it would just be physically difficult to eat that much cauliflower

but bananas? Yes, some people get fat eating too many fruits

Bananas have ~100 calories each and act as a Diuretic makeing eating large numbers of them on a regular basis unpleasant. So, I am going to call BS.

You can gain weight on a high fruit diet, but bananas are an unusual choice. Fruit juice on the other hand is much easier way to gain weight, but like most processed foods less heathy.

Dried fruit is very high in calories, for example.

And it's not like you're only eating fruit. These people would eat a normal meal and then snack on fruits constantly. So if they didn't eat fruit they'd only be getting 2000 calories a day, but it's quite easy to eat 500 calories of dried dates or dried figs.

At that point you can just as easily blame the excessive meals vs snaking as the problem. Two glasses of milk per day * 40 years can be the difference between normal weight an obisity, but it's rare for people to blame milk.

I doubt it. Maybe with fruit juice.

Definitely avacados. I know people who scarf down vegan guacamole.