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> So if you really want that "dive bar but might get stabbed" vibe you can move there?

As somebody who's lived there my whole life, :(

I know we were just ranked the most violent city in Washington (or something) but tbh it's never _felt_ that way.



It's a joke :) Tacoma is a pretty awesome place and I love it. Yeah it's violent but in general it's not too bad, just certain places (Hilltop) can get really bad. Compared to Seattle it's crime is much higher; the stats don't lie. But much of that is concentrated in specific parts.


To put in perspective Ferndale, MI, an affordable but awesome neighborhood of Detroit, is about 4x safer. 800 to 200 violent crime per 100k per year


Ferndale is an inner ring suburb not a neighborhood


Stop fronting. Ferndale is north of 8 mile.


Because it’s not. Comparatively within Washington, sure...but nowhere near Oakland, South Chicago, Baltimore, Compton. I grew up in Stockton CA and while I live in Seattle now, Tacoma still feels like a pretty nice blue collar town to me.


How's Hilltop? I remember it being pretty dicey when I was young.


Much better than it was. They had some big gang busts around 2009 if I remember correctly. No huge shootouts since '89 ;)


Pretty sure that honor goes to Wenatchee. Heck, people forget the huge slide Spokane has taken since its heyday.


People on the west side forget about the east side in general lol.


What about Renton?




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