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If quantum randomness is controlled by a non-physical entity then it's just moving the goal posts. For me it's really simple. Free will is people not having a pre-destined path. If the non-determinism of quantum mechanics influences the way the lives of people change through their decisions this means there is free will. Everything else is really just pure philosophical drivel that can't be verified.


I agree. I just don't call this scenario free will, but nondeterminism, since it's less confusing. From my experience, when people talk about free will, they are not simply referring to nondeterminism.

Subjectively speaking, nondeterminism doesn't really seem to "buy" me anything. It does not restore any of the agency. In fact, if it is true, it gives me even more of a " arbitrary puppet" feeling than if the mind is deterministic.




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