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NZ media has a negative opinion of the current US administration and tends to write everything about them in a negative way.


That’s not just the NZ media, and it’s not just NZ. More or less every country other than the US looks at America as a train wreck now.

It’s an embarrassment


And in turn most Americans don't know or care about the rest of the world.

It's been this way my entire (relatively long) life. The only new thing that is the last couple decades brought the internet where many of us can learn about what's going on out there.


Dare I say, that's a little unfair to America.

About a quarter of the population of the USA is either first-generation or second-generation American.

Very few other countries have as much of a connection with the rest of the world.


True I'm not really familiar with what gets covered on Telemundo and such. But I'd still bet Trump/Obama/Bush have gotten far more coverage in other countries than, say, Xi or Abe get in the US.


I could see that being true. I think there are reasons for it.

I would argue that in many cases, American foreign (incl trade) and domestic (incl fiscal) policy have a greater impact on other countries' economies than do their own respective heads of state/government. Whether you like it or not, the strength of the relationship with the US is a major factor for the prosperity of many nations.

I think this is a big part of why people like Bolsonaro and Netanyahu use Trump's imagery when they campaign. Externally, it signals receptiveness to US interests. Domestically, it signals prosperity and security.

Also, the USA exports its culture to the rest of the world via TV, film, music, and the internet. Politics is a natural offshoot of that.

Some countries circulate US currency. Others peg their currency to the dollar. Petrostates do business in the dollar because that's the base currency for crude oil trading.


That's true for pretty much any large country. Do you really think some middle family in Xiamen really gives a shit about American politics?

Do you think that a 55 year old farmer in Ohio, USA gives a damn about the the rest of the world?

People are just getting by for the most part.


My girlfriend's father in Malaysia watched CCTV and a few other Chinese language broadcast news stations that had stories on what was happening in the US every day, so if the family in Xiamen has a TV then they might not "follow" US politics, but they definitely get informed about what's happening here.


Do you think America isn’t looking at America like a trainwreck too?


Nope, but a lot of America clearly sees the current policies as being a success :-/


> More or less every country other than the US looks at America as a train wreck now.

A substantial portion of the US views the US as a train wreck too, maybe even a majority.


I hope America can recover out of the damage the current administration has done. If Joe Biden wins the presidency, he is going to be busy meeting leaders of the world apologizing the mess Trump has created.

Just read through the 2016 Trump Presidency thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907201

And the DNC strategy leaked in Wikileaks: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwy_92NWEAAwyqe.jpg:large

Quoting comments:

> Trump won because the Democrats railroaded their best candidate in favor of someone who is profoundly unlikeable and untrustworthy. Regardless of if she is truly a criminal, or not, the Democratic party choose a candidate who is under investigation by the FBI instead of a candidate that had real honest to god connection with the working people of the country. The voters have literally said that even Trump is better than what the Democrats have tried to ram down their throats this election. This election was lost, not won.

I think we all would have been singing a different tune at this time if Hillary Clinton was the president. Remember, she lost by a small margin, and I really truly blame her for the complete mess. She trusted the polls too much, didn't raise empathy for people and she hadnt got the charisma of Obama to win people. Hillary even had the popular vote.

The course of history, and consequently the tunes of non-Americans and Americans' view of America would be different if small perturbations in short term had not caused profound changes in the outcome of history.

NZ press would be praising Hillary in one way or the other. It is simply that powerful.


>>>f Joe Biden wins the presidency, he is going to be busy meeting leaders of the world apologizing the mess Trump has created.

Assuming a future President Biden even knows where he is when he meets those world leaders. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/12/its-fair-...

Really interesting see how the Bernie Bros felt on the subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/cpfrfg/if_dem...




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