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Damn, what a shitty, negative comment.


Well, if these weren't the results that the community produces over and over and over and over again. Look up any of the long list of "X in Rust" Show HN posts that there have been.

It's kind of a meme at this point.[0,1,2]

It's going to start effecting interviews. I'm saying this as a hiring manager who has to evaluate what projects candidates spend their time on and what they are going to be like to work with. People who oversell their work or don't know how to evaluate value go into the hard pass pile.

And no, I'm not shitting on them for having a hobby project. I'm shitting on them for clearly demonstrating that they don't understand what the very mainstream software they're actively trying to compete with does.

[0]:https://transitiontech.ca/random/RIIR [1]:http://adventures.michaelfbryan.com/posts/how-not-to-riir/ [2]:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21334510 (which is just the comments here from [1], but also interesting.


It's someone's hobby project, they are probably having a great time designing and building it. I bet they've learned a lot doing so.


It's no longer a hobby project when you have the most prominent section of your README comparing your project to a bunch of other mainstream software and you're arguing for why people should use your project over those.

It's not a hobby project when you've shipped your Brew into Core and reserved a name.

At that point, we get to make the apples to apples comparisons.

Props to the Arch community for having the good sense to keep this in the AUR.


Are you implying that if you make an effort to share and promote your work to others, it becomes a free-for-all where criticism with any tone whatsoever is alright? If not, what is your point in arguing whether it's a hobby project?

There are people who take an effort to produce something and then take the extra step to show it to others so they might learn or collaborate. And those people often get comments where their project is being picked apart with a fine-toothed comb, packaged in an abrasive tone.

This happens over and over again in IT. There's plenty of people with insecurities who - for reasons that psychiatrists understand better than me - rejoice in taking others down.

Lots of people would say it's because we are hidden to each other behind the screen and would never say this stuff to a colleague. I guess that's part of the reason why it's so prevalent in HN. Though, I've seen the same style of rhetoric in the industry, face-to-face.

"You should go to back to school before talking about CSS" and plenty of laughing was something directed at me when I suggested that the ´class´ attribute for HTML tags has semantic meaning beyond just hooking up CSS rules to it. I had trouble explaining it, but my colleague with longer industry experience took it as "lol this noob junior programmer doesn't even understand what ´class´ means". He didn't even stop to consider how class attributes can be used through Javascript and beyond, he immediately went for taking me down as fast as possible.

And that f'ing hurt. And after that I have probably been toxic to other people too. I wish I could go back and undo all the times I have hurt someone like that. Totally unnecessarily and without reason. But I can't. That's why the least I can do when someone suggests that "hey, tone it down a bit" is to shut up with the explanations why I am right to say what I'm saying and think whether there's a more constructive way to go forward.


Rust deserves negativity, though, just for balance’s sake.

Nevertheless, this project is somebody learning Rust on an intermediate/advanced level. Nothing wrong with that, and people deriding it because it cannot compete with real text editors with millions of man-hours behind them are behaving bit silly. Who knows, one of these exercises might become a great editor some day.


I never expected it to compete with real editors. I'm just disappointed by the flippant and very dismissive "comparison" section, which manages to perfectly miss what makes each editor so popular. asciimov's comment sums it up.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24976470


HN gonna HN.




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