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I assume you're talking about the following:

> The extent of economic damage from Brexit has been made clear by the Office for Budget Responsibility, which predicts that leaving the EU will reduce our long-term GDP by around 4%, compared to a fall of around 1.5% that will be caused by the pandemic.

Okay a prediction from a budget office, many times these are far off, many times they are political. That's not a statistic, it's a prediction from one group based on conjecture.

So let me ask you this, what _FACT_ (statistic), not _OPINION_ (prediction) have you seen that leads you to believe Brexit resulted in economic loss?



Here is one article, there are plenty of others and they all have roughly the same ranges:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59070020

And that's not 'exports' per se, as much as it is GDP.


Please say the fact and source it with the article instead of just linking to it.

The reason you don't say the fact is because there is no fact in that article.

What in that article proved to you that Brexit caused this? What explained the 4%?

A comparison of post-Brexit, pre-pandemic GDP numbers is more reliable:

https://www.businessinsider.com/moodys-brexit-impact-on-gdp-...

The pandemic clearly caused a drop in the GDP when it hit, Brexit did not. You have to PROVE why you think Brexit caused this dip in 2021 all of a sudden.

You can't just say, oh look a dip finally happened, these things take time to kick in, it must be that thing I think was going to do it.

All the way until the pandemic Brexit GDP was steady, not following the doomsday forecasts, only when the pandemic hit did the GDP drop.

You can directly attribute shutting down the economy to a drop in GDP. You have not attributed anything to Brexit.

- edit because I'm at my limit -

First off, the point was the GDP was stead in 2018, post-Brexit, pre-pandemic.

The reason you can't use 2021 GDP numbers directly is because we shut down economies due to covid.

You linked two articles with the same "prediction", they did not have any facts linking Brexit to anything.

Feel free to get angry and give up, but do note that nothing you have linked proves Brexit caused the dip in GDP at all.

I'm not claiming anything, I can't prove a negative. You have the burden of proof if you are trying to say X caused Y.


Are you seriously going to post a speculative article from 2018 to support your position but at the same time claim that not one but two articles from 2021 are not acceptable because there 'is no fact' in those articles? I'm done here, this isn't a debate.


First off, the point was the GDP was stead in 2018, post-Brexit, pre-pandemic.

The reason you can't use 2021 GDP numbers directly is because we shut down economies due to covid.

Second, you linked two articles with the same "prediction", they did not have any facts linking Brexit to anything.

Feel free to get angry and give up, but do note that nothing you have linked proves Brexit caused the dip in GDP at all.

I'm not claiming anything, I can't prove a negative. You have the burden of proof if you are trying to say X caused Y.




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