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The two best things denigrating Cleveland: Balloonfest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0CT8zrw6lw) & your already mentioned Mike Polk Jr's tourism videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0CT8zrw6lw & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM). If you can get past the dreary gray skies for 8 months of the year, Cleveland is cheap (even the nicer suburbs like Solon or Aurora) and has easy access to scenic western PA & upstate NY.


“Sure, the weather sucks, but at least it’s cheap, and you can go to marginally better places fairly quickly.”

Not exactly a ringing endorsement!


Weather was a major reason I chose to move to Southern California from Toronto.

Bad weather affects my quality of life immensely. If it’s cold or wet I’m more likely to stay home, more likely to wake up late and it negatively affects my mood.


You sound like me. I hate cold weather, I hate snowy and icy roads and being cooped up inside because it's -10 outside. I hate the snow that never melts and the gray skies. Give me the American southwest any day over that.


I also live in Cleveland currently. I don't necessarily agree that it's 8 months of dreary skies. Winters can be some of the best and most beautiful months here.

I also don't think they Solon is a nice suburb (the downtown truly sucks) though.


I worked there for a couple of years. Solon has one of the best public school systems in the state and is near a couple of major freeways, which are probably the sorts of things you care about if you use phrases like "great suburb." :D

I'm not sure how to actually define "downtown" there. It's not exactly walkable. The older and grungier parts of that metro area are actually nicer to live in if you like to walk.


Solon native here - “walkable” downtown would be by the old City Hall and down Bainbridge to just across 91 (ie where you’d actually walk around when lit up at Christmas), and along Station St. Maybe the shopping center on Aurora but not after they killed the McDonald’s across the street.




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