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Vaccines didn't used to be political.


People didn't used to disagree with the politics.


People have always disagreed over politics, it's just that more things have been politicized.


Mandates will always be political.


At least in the US lots of vaccines are mandated (of children) and it's not political.


For diseases that actually hurt children.

See this article by Dr Peter Attia (and embedded graph under heading "OBSERVATION 4") about how dangerous COVID is for children (and adults < 35).

https://peterattiamd.com/a-follow-up-to-my-article-on-vaccin...


I'm replying to someone who claimed mandates will always be political by pointing out a counter example.

The covid mandate in the US at least was of adults. All of whom are at some risk (especially if you include long covid).


My point is this: If you have a vaccine its inherently non-political, its just a medical intervention. But when it becomes mandated now you introduce a process by which some people can decide for some other people what must be done. That is politics.


That is not what people generally mean by "political".


I don't know what decade you were born in, but I have cousins aged 18 and 20 that have never been vaccinated because of their mom's political beliefs.


Likely because of a mistaken assumption of fears of autism. Politics only entered into this under Trump.

https://slate.com/technology/2021/02/smallpox-vaccine-bioatt...


Autism is one of many strawmen that the antivax movement throws out. You may have only become aware of this under Trump, but the antivaxers in my family are a flavor of anti-establishment Christian fundamentalists (quiverfull-aligned) that are absolutely political, and have been (I attest as a first-hand witness) for decades, long predating Trump's rise to power.


For their health when older, I hope they look into getting exposed to chicken pox ASAP.


Their grandma just died of covid, and while part of me would hope that it would be a wakeup call, the kids are all home-schooled, so they've probably swallowed the narrative that nothing different could have been done; it was just her time to meet Jesus.

I hope they don't get chickenpox, personally. I hope they get some life experience that opens their eyes to how ignorant they are.


I'm not implying they nor their family are ignorant. Chicken pox is easily survivable for children. Less so for older adults. My parents took me to a pox party of other kids specifically to be exposed.

Covid is also easily survivable for children, and adults in reasonably good health. I survived corona a year ago and now see no medical reason to get those jabs.


You don't have to say it, they're my family and I'll tell it like it is: they are ignorant, and deliberately so. Home schooling is all part of the plan. (This is not a generic statement about home schooling, just these particular home-schoolers)


Immunity to COVID wanes over time, in part because it can take hold on the surfaces of your respiratory tract to a certain point without triggering the ire of your immune system (which is why vaccinated people can spread COVID). To keep yourself from developing a serious case of it, vaccinations need to be periodic, like the flu. You could keep getting it every year or so if you want, but getting it this year isn't going to prevent you from getting it next year


"To keep yourself from developing a serious case of it, vaccinations need to be periodic"

I had it and recovered. I have blood test results and Dr. letter to prove it.

The CDC says actual measured outcomes show I am in the category of persons who do better than the jabbed.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm "By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone."

Your attempt to tell me to get yearly jabs is similar to what upsets the Canadian protestors. Please stop with the coercion and mandates.


just because some people disagree with a policy does make it "political". I know someone that opposes seatbelt laws but that doesn't make them "political".

That said I don't think it's productive to debate what "political" means.


All policy is political by definition. Also the shared etymology is a bit of a hint too. Observe thar policy-makers is used as a synonym for politicians.


I don't think that's what people mean when they say an issue is political. They generally mean it's contentious or split partisanly.

Your definition would suggest public water utilities are "political" which sounds silly to me.

Google offers the definition

>relating to the ideas or strategies of a particular party or group in politics.


> Your definition would suggest public water utilities are "political" which sounds silly to me.

Tell that to the people of Flint, Michigan.


It is a little bit political, usually doesn't reach the national level though.


This isn't a protest over vaccines though.


It was protesting vaccine requirements and has morphed into more because everybody loves a circus.




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