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Life in the soil was thought to be silent – what if it isn’t? (knowablemagazine.org)
119 points by ohjeez on Feb 13, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 35 comments


Yes they do, and with a balanced underground contact microphone you can pick up lots. Though ideally you want large soil sample box with target animal (ants or worms) and that inside an acoustic chamber to rule out external noise.

It's amazing how much sound there is out there, hard thing is filtering out the rest and capturing those low dB sounds that are often drowned out.

Now with an array of microphones you could potentially track the movements of the target underground animal, but be some serious effort.

Basic balanced contact micrphone how to build https://www.instructables.com/Balanced-piezo-contact-microph...

Suggest adding sandwich layer that's non conductive but also good at picking up sound in the frequency range you are targeting - small shard of glass works nice, but again, it's a whole rabbit hole of exploration you may or may not wish to go down.

I can also recommend the behringer 202hd as a good preamp on a budget for such a balance contact microphone.

Or for something non balanced https://jezrileyfrench.co.uk/contact-microphones.php do top microphones and that model was used for many BBC Nature documentaries with David Attenborough. Though personally not used those myself.


This documentary https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16058448/ has a part towards the end where mics are setup deep inside of a remote cave in the mountains. The sounds they picked up were supposedly those of rocks cracking from tidal effects from the moon. Crazy stuff.


I scuba dive. Sound travels much faster and farther underwater. Initially, being underwater, it is very quiet. Then you start hearing all the noises: snapping, popping, and scraping. The snapping noises are from shrimp. Other noises, I don't know. Maybe the same principle is at play.


Doesn’t sound travel slower underwater?


Upvoted to help un-gray your comment. Questions should not be downvoted. Welcome to todays 10 thousand: https://xkcd.com/1053/


Typically the more denser the medium the faster sound travels.


Nope. MUCH faster


Yup

The speed of sound in air is ~340 m/s, in water ~1,430 m/s, and in steel ~5920 m/s.


Literally just returned to my rental after snorkeling Molokini. Hearing whales sing while listening to fish munch on the reef was incredible.


The Hawaiian name for the local parrotfish is humuhumunukunukuapia'a, which translates to "fish that snorts like a pig".


That should be "humuhumunukunukuapua'a".

Damn auto-correct.


If you have ever scuba/snorkeled near coral, the groupers are the loudest with their beaks picking at the corals...

The first time I heard it I was stunned just how loud it was.

Can you imagine being a sound deadening-engineer designing subs? Thats some impressive capability.

Recall the pic of the sub that collided with a (chinese) sub:

https://imgur.com/a/Pa5cLYz

I'm not one to deep dive into sub design, but that looks like a lot of sound damping material to me...


It hit a seamount, not a Chinese sub. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_San_Francisco_(SSN-711)


I am very familiar with the official story!

I also watch anything and everything I can about subs, and the unofficial story was a chinese collision... A man can dream...


Why do you dream of that?


I should have used the word 'imagine' or 'speculate' -- the point is a a $4 billion dollar nuclear sub with some of the greatest secrets of our military isnt just going to tell us what happened...

They claim it was a previously unmapped under-water land mass and the cover story was that it could have grown from the crust since the last time we mapped there....

This was in the south china sea correct? and we have seismic sensors everywhere, a lot in that region due to Indonesia's propensity to quake... (My brother is a COlonel - I don't take the official story regarding the military - and especially subs...


No, “in the vicinity of the Caroline Islands” is quite a ways from the South China Sea. 2-3k miles.

We haven’t come anywhere near mapping the entire ocean, and seamounts can pop up quite quickly. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/underwater-eruptio...

> In 2018, seismometers around the world detected mysterious rumbles emanating from a usually quiet area in the Indian Ocean between Comoros and Madagascar. At the time, researchers were astonished to find a 2,690-foot-tall underwater volcano, which is about 1.5 times the height of the One World Trade Center in New York.

As with most conspiracy theories, this one falls apart on even casual examination.


When I was a kid in California, I came across a vibrant ant colony in a rock, a piece of fractured shale. There were so many ants swarming around the entrance that you could hear their susurration a good twenty feet (6m) away.


susurration : whispering, murmuring, or rustling.


onomatopoeic all.


I've long suspected that with very powerful microphones we might be able to hear all sorts of fascinating sounds from tiny sources of life, from insects on down.

I'm aware of some contact microphone recordings of ants, such as [1] and [2], but I'm talking about much more sensitive recordings.. for example, what is the sound of an ant's leg moving (not just its footstep).. or the sound of its internal organs? What does insect sex or feeding sound like? There are many thousands of different insect species, and each of them could sound different.

Just like electron microscopes have given us amazing views of insects that were unavailable to use through the naked eye, I suspect the soundscape on the microscopic level could be just as fascinating.

Musicians could also use it as raw material, and process it to make it even more interesting. The sky is the limit.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJa6apFGHBc

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQily-b7KKc

[3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6per-2muOCQ


This is not new, nor is it a surprise. Many animals that burrow have well developed senses of sound, and some even have sensory organs for detecting electrical charge and vibration.


industrial agriculture is destroying this important biome. Watch 'kiss the soil' on netflix and look into permaculture/forest style gardening. Guided natural processes could just save us from monocultured death.


I wonder how much we can "extract" while minimizing disruption. Maybe.. hopefully a new agricultural science emerges from the urgent need to nurture the biosphere.


My personal interest is to see independent small scale robotics enable efficient harvesting of densely inter-planted spaces which will facilitate higher aggregate output while supporting greater biodiversity at all levels (soil, fungi, insect, bird, plant) without the artificial fertilizer and pesticide inputs. Sort of The One-Straw Revolution plus robots. No idea how feasible it is, at a guess it is unlikely to compete with the scale of existing systems up front in terms of yield per acre but probably can on fiscal returns vs. cash invested in marginal or non-flat terrain.


As everyone knows, this was already well-documented in 1978. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsQ4CxgZ0xI&t=58s


Most of our understanding of animal behavior comes from observation in their natural habitat. It would seem nearly impossible to observe this behavior for undersoil.


I'd take an opposite view that as humans, we don't know what we don't know, and the scope of our unknowing is much greater than we lend ourselves to believe.

Another great example studies of mycelium networks exchanging nutrients with forest tree root networks. The exchange of nutrients has much in common with the firing of neutrons in the animal brain. This was discovered by "feeding" trees radioactive CO2 gas and observing how it moves to other trees. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/mec.15520


"Almost impossible" seems a bit hyperbolic considering this is an article about a scientist who just made observations about underground behavior.


Thought by whom, and on what possible basis? Foxes hunt subterranean mammals and large insects by ear, and that's just off the top of my head.


There must be a fair amount of friction happening as well. I wonder what happens to all the heat generated.


Helps keep soil from freezing.

The extreme case is compost, which is decay-dominated, and ends up full of thermophiles (not unlike wine ends up dominated by the yeast that made the wine). A number of people have figured out how to heat greenhouses, outbuildings, or in one case college dormitories by scaling this up.


I’d be interested in how they were able to heat the dorm with compost, I’ve laid fresh compost before and when that stuff is stewing it stinks.


They used a downdraft system which pulls air through the pile, heating it up. Then they ran the air through some heat exchangers, and finally out into some charcoal and through some planter boxes to absorb the moisture and some volatiles. It was quite involved. Large too.


I wonder if it would be possible to hear ciliates buzzing around.




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