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Many Europeans are going to Spain, and northern Africa countries for price benefits, since their retirement will make them rich class there.

That said, the irony of US going back to Vietnam is still something.



It's not so much about "price benefits" as the better climate. We're tired of cold and rain, here in the north.


Well, in some country, you can move to the south, like in France, we have southern France. Eh ! Joke aside. French retirees don't need to leave France to have a good climat, and yet some of them go to Portugal because of tax advantages, others go to Tunisia Tunisia because they can take advantage of the very low wages...


I think that might be more for the weather than economic reasons.


The few time people told me about it money was clearly the reason, climate and general mood was also a main factor.


It's really both. Lots of French people living in Portugal 183 days and in France 182 days.


Why this split?


Under most EU country tax laws your "usual residence" which determines in theory where you should pay your taxes is where you reside "most of the year" that translates to 183 days.

What not-so-few people try doing is to establish "on paper" residence in a lower tax country while staying most of the time in the (usually) state where they were born, have family, relations and often also economical interests.

While (again usually) most retired people actually move to the other country, often because - besides the tax lowering - it offers better climate, lower costs, etc., a number of people still working try that way to simply save on taxes, particularly if having a large income and thus being on a higher tax bracket.

Once a month or so there is a newspaper article here in Italy about <put here the name of a reknown athlete/singer/musician/actor/artist/whatever> having been fined for high sums for having established residence in (say) Montecarlo or in the UK (before Brexit) but actually being in Italy all the time or nearly so.


Taxes.

See this webpage from this official European Union website. Click/press on “Retired Person Abroad” (https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/taxes/double-taxa...)

“If you have retired to another EU country and spend more than 6 months a year there, that country may consider you a tax-resident. If so, you may have to pay tax to that country on your total worldwide income - including pensions you receive from other EU countries.

Exception: public sector pensions are usually taxed only in the country of the administration that employed you.”

But yeah, the above website is called Your Europe, and it is extremely useful for such information.


To be classified as Portuguese tax residents (which is very attractive for foreigners, unlike the native Portuguese who pay through the nose)


NHR is also available to Portuguese citizens, provided they haven't been a resident for the last X years.


Now I guess there's gonna be a dilemma if portugal and spain are hit first by climate change.


> That said, the irony of US going back to Vietnam is still something.

There would be more irony if it were the French.




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