I wasn't bashing the creativity, however it should be noted somewhere that it's not the optimal way to use those controls. Although it seem obvious to most of us, people looking for programming examples might take it more seriously. I recall a colleague back in the day (late 90s to early 2k, VB or possibly Delphi) telling me: "heh, I didn't know where to find a sorting function for this and that, so I dragged on the app form a visual component (grid, list etc) having a similar method, made it invisible, then copied data back and forth using its cell/list/array sorting method: problem solved". Different context as my colleague knew it wasn't an optimal solution, but you get the point. I'd also encourage more creative (mis)uses of the web, but possibly with some warnings attached just in case.