I love that the Guardian article in that thread cites the head of NATO's statements as proof of Russian involvement. This is even lazier than Russiagate.
And? There's nothing here denouncing nuclear. Also, Nord Stream AG? You mean the Swiss holding company of which Gazprom is a partner? So the millions of dollars that Exxon, Chevron, etc. have spent on misinformation to undermine climate change concerns over the decades implicates the US government as well?
BUND specifically states that they never opposed to construction of the Nord Stream pipeline, because they viewed natural gas as a good alternative to nuclear:
Wow, well as someone who straddles the US and EU, he sure as heck seemed to be extremely pro-Putin at the very least, and Putin was very clearly very pro-Trump. Whether Putin has kompromat/direct control of Trump is unknown, what is clearly known is that Putin and Russian nationalists much preferred Trump in charge. I cannot find a single thing that Trump said which is negative about Putin, and Putin is a man who considers the USA his greatest enemy.
I honestly did not think it was debatable at this point that Putin's and Trump's interests were very vocally aligned. It's like you and I live in different multi-verses yet are somehow communicating. How truly bizarre.
There were a couple actions Trump did during his presidency that directly hurt Putin, namely the sanctions on Nord Stream 2 that caused Allseas to drop out of the project and delaying the completion of the pipeline for some time. The EU was quite upset by this.
He also criticised Europeans for not meeting NATO defence obligations, although whether he would have been fine with them just increasing their expenditures or if this was just a rhetorical point to find support for leaving NATO is perhaps only known to him.
On these points I agree with you! The idea that Trump was a Russian asset is laughable given his own actions in office, not to mention many of his appointments. He certainly admired Putin, but that's due to his own psychology rather than any supposed dirt they had on him.
It's a consortium. Majority owned by Gazprom. Still doesn't support the notion that the Kremlin was coordinating or even funding some elaborate misinformation campaign against nuclear. Private companies always lobby in their own interests-- worst of all in the US where this sort of corruption is legalized and highly lucrative.
