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> the prosecutor would have then had to prove it was you in the driver's seat for any sort of moving violation to stick.

Obviously in a fair system, this would have to be true, but in today's system, is it actually true? Don't a lot of speed cameras automatically mail out tickets by license plate, and it's just assumed that if you're the owner, you're also the driver, unless you can prove someone else actually was?



In the USA it depends by state. Many East Coast counties have speed cameras and red light cameras.

California doesn't have speed cameras but certain jurisdictions have red light cameras. And it depends by jurisdiction whether you have to pay or send it to /dev/null.

In Arizona I know of Scottsdale having speed cameras. Not sure how they get around the legality.

In Germany they take a photo of the front of your car, so your face is on it... Unless you drive there with a left-hand drive car: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081607/Speeding-pu...

In Belgium it's way worse. Picture of the back of your car and you have to pay. No way around it. In fact, if you want to fight the ticket you need to pay to see the photo. How's that for discovery?


Amusingly, identical twins still get off the hook for this. And I read on HN recently that in places with particularly egregious automatic enforcement, it becomes popular to wear a ski mask while driving




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