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> Not one high level person I spoke to during negotiations is still at Google today.

The whole Google culture and value has always been the same since Day one. And yet they somehow managed to convince majority of the public about how good they are for at least 10 - 15 years.

>Anecdotally, I'm not a huge fan of MS products (but no hater either), but Microsoft devs seem to love their work way more than Google devs, in my network.

That pretty much summarise the different between Microsoft and Google. The story is like Google's value and culture was founded upon the hatred of Microsoft. When Microsoft was supposed to be evil.



In the years Google rose, Microsoft was no longer evil. It did not last tho.


Microsoft was never evil, well not any more evil than any other company. Microsoft was a monopoly. Given what they get away with with Windows 10 and 11 one could argue they still are or at least still act like they are.


Microsoft is beyond evil. The stuff they do in third world countries is like cold war CIA lite.

In Argentina, Microsoft bribed their way into having power of police.

If you are a company here, any day you can get a email from Microsoft compelling you to provide them an inventory of your software under the pain of being raided by the police to get audited if you don’t comply, or you just may get raided if they suspect you are using illegitimate copies of their software.

Yes, Microsoft can kick down your door and check your computers.

We are a software shop in a small city in Argentina and at some point we made a blip in their radar because we won a technology exporter award of our city.

Our prize was an email from Microsoft like I described before.

They didn’t get a dime because all our desktops and servers were Linux, but they did try. They had the gall of pitching Microsoft Teams in their threatening emails. It was surreal.


Evil is malintent*capability so a company with monopoly over your entire hobby, profession and/or economy is going to score higher on evil even if a baby has more malintent.


Microsoft supplies software and services to organizations that run torture centers and concentration camps.

There is little wiggle room debate here.


Also Hanlon's razor




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