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> is there any evidence of "messy toxic crunch" before or after the one bad (in large part because shitty consoles are a thing) launch?

"There was no crunch, as long as we don't count all that crunch before the launch, and all that crunch after the launch..."

There's no need to be so defensive. We can rightfully criticize any employer who mistreats their employees, without giving a free pass to ones that might mistreat their employees slightly less than others. There was exactly one pre-existing comment in this thread that mentioned CDPR at all; nobody is targeting them unfairly.



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