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This problem isn't just cars. I've had 2 washers fail in the last couple of years, each time the main logic board. The proplem is (mainly) the electronics, or more precisely, highly integrated, highly proprietary parts.

When they break, you can hardly diagnose them, let alone fix them, or replace them with 3rd party stuff. Buying replacements from the manufacturer (if you even can) is often uneconomic, and also risky, since maybe it broke because of some other failure, etc.

The solution isn't going back to simple wires and mechanics - his example of 'wiring in a tail light' would double the weight of the car with wires if applied to everything.

The solution is modularity and open standards.



I couldn't agree more. I have a 65" TV that's about 3 years old. It was a midrange model with a nice picture. It's now sitting here waiting to go to ewaste because the mainboard failed. Unfortunately, it turns out that was a common failure in that particular model, and replacement mainboards are no longer available. And because of the proprietary nature and integration you mentioned, replacing it with something else just isn't feasible. It almost makes me sick to think about trashing this giant piece of equipment (which is part of the reason it's still sitting here) but I just can't see any hope for it.


What kind of washers if you don't mind sharing. I want to avoid buying that brand. My guess is Samsung because I have had really bad experience with Samsung stuff over the years.


Yes, one was Samsung - I've earned the same conclusion as you, that most of their stuff is garbage.

The other was also a Korean brand, LG, which seems to have a better reputation (for washers anyway), but maybe undeserved.

But in both cases, if anything about the electronics breaks, the whole thing is basically toast, at least from an economic pov.


Hopping on the Samsung hate train.

Purchased a washer and dryer set when our old unit was shot and had multiple issues within two years. Also purchased an oven with a similar outcome.

Fortunately my tv is going strong ish. Had to have the mainboard replaced around 4-5 years and patiently waiting for the day it won't power on. The TV situation isn't as horrible with my only lasting gripe being hdmi-cec getting out of sync and only full power loss for 15-30+ minutes seems to fix it.

I'm avoiding their products like the plague after all this....

Their designs look great but... lipstick on a pig.


You could take look at Speed Queen. I went for their TC5 machine recently. No lid lock, real deep fill option, etc. It's a $500+ premium over what you can get from Samsung (or anything at Big Box for that matter), but I think it's worth it to have a proper machine that can actually be serviced.


Can't get seem to get SQ where I am, but currently looking at older GE/whirlpool models with minimal or at least modular electronics - anything from before the Great Enshittening.

I can't figure out if any new models are modular/repairable and built to last, or just trading on old reputation, but actually the same disposable garbage as everyone else.


You'll have to shop at a boutique or commercial outlet to find this stuff if you are in the domestic U.S.

Home Depot/Best Buy/Lowes/Conns/etc will only sell you plastic shit these days.

You have to go to their website and search. Mine had to be shipped from a warehouse 2 hours away and I live right next to Houston.




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