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The free market gathers wealth with a few and then determinate value depending on the state of mind of the few. The whole harebrained idea never worked, resulting in even more harebrained counter movements like socialism preventing value to be how many antigerm washings you performed per day. It's civil unrest or the threat of it, that redistribute wealth and restart societys value circulation.


Yeah and it seems to have that one flaw that ultimately kills it's biggest benefactors at least over generational scales, the money always flows uphill until the end (revolution) unless some countermeasures like progressive taxes, democracy, and social programs are put into place. That's why I respect capitalism as a part of society but not as the sole determiner of someone's status as a human being that should at least have a chance of a decent existence. I would counter that systems like anarchism (they will always be crushed by forces from within or without) and communism fall flat on their face every time except on small scales not bigger than a modern small town or less modern village.


I wonder if you know that there are ideologies like market socialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism, they too have a market, but they change the relation of ownership of a workplace from some specific owner class to actual workers in the workplace through changing workplaces to worker cooperatives among other postulates.


The market socialist idea is under full attack and in full retreat ever since the thing behind the wall collapsed. It was never more than a temporary pocket of peace, negotiated for by societys that remembered were the journey always ends.


It seems to me like the movement of worker cooperatives is growing and they seem to be on average much better workplaces than the normal workplaces.




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