> is there a lisp dialect that makes common data structures available in a multitude of ways?
Clojure. The language is built around immutable data structures with the expected interface for maps and vectors, and the idiomatic list-churning we're both referring to is unified through the sequence abstraction. So switching from a vector to a map can often be as simple as switching constructors. Because they're immutable, every operation makes a "copy" but does so efficiently.
I don't have a lot of use for Clojure these days but I enjoyed working with it. Rich Hickey is a smart fella.
There are so many ways to express yourself in python that are troublesome in lisp.
I actually think list manipulation is easier in python than lisp.
I don't know, is there a lisp dialect that makes common data structures available in a multitude of ways?
I seem to be able to manipulate lists quite easily in python, and switch back and forth to sets or hashes.
but in lisp you have to dig in to find (for example):
- how to prepend to a list
- how to append to a list
- how to remove an element from a lisp
- how to do slices of lists
it seems to me like a lot of operations in lisp are needlessly efficient too.
Like instead of copying a list, you have to modify the list in place.
if my list will only have 10 elements, and my machine does millions of instructions per second, can't I copy it around a few times if I want?