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The customer can demand that, but they need to understand that that also demands waterfall. It's unrealistic to have that kind of expectation and get anything other than cargo cult agile.

There are lots of consequences of doing "agile" properly that go way above the programmers' heads. That includes clients being able to specify requirements and price but not both at the same time.

I've worked on tons of teams where it was dictated from up on high that we should do agile and also do waterfall planning (always called something else). Agile consultants often have a tendency to accommodate this contradiction because up on high controls the purse strings and they need to eat.

The danger is that over time the things they do to eat become their identity and the genuine people get washed out of the industry.

We do need a sensemaking framework and a term which can be used to rule this type of thing out.



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