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>There is this strange pervasive myth that everyone who lived before current_year-20years was an idiotic barbarian and current society is peak human evolution.

Even just some cursory thought should put the lie to that. As Steven J. Gould ruminated[0] upon quite some time ago:

   ... But if we laugh with derision, we will never understand.  Human
   intellectual capacity has not altered for thousands of years so far as
   we can tell.  If intelligent people invested intense energy in issues
   that now seem foolish to us, then the failure lies in our understanding
   of their world, not in their distorted perceptions.  Even the standard
   example of ancient nonsense -- the debate about angels on pinheads --
   makes sense once you realize that theologians were not discussing
   whether five or eighteen would fit, but whether a pin could house a
   finite or an infinite number.
                -- S. J. Gould, "Wide Hats and Narrow Minds"
[0] https://motd.ambians.com/quotes.php/name/freebsd_fortunes/to...


Whats a lie exactly? My claim that a lot of people (I guess you could call them "progressive") believe in this myth? Because the post above clearly shows that it is true.


Even just some cursory thought should put the lie[0] to [such a myth].

My apologies. I forget that many folks on here aren't fluent in English.

[0] https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/give+the+lie+to


I consider myself fairly fluent in English after spending 15 years in the US, but thanks for the patronizing comment.

I know the idiom, but [that] was ambiguous in your original comment.


>I know the idiom, but [that] was ambiguous in your original comment.

I thought (incorrectly, apparently) that was made clear by the context and quote.

Perhaps you're not as fluent as you think.

And you're welcome. I can be paternalistic as well as patronizing if you like.


I am fluent in English and I have never heard that idiom before.


>I am fluent in English and I have never heard that idiom before.

In that case, congratulations![0]. Especially given that the idiom is more than 800 years[1] old.

[0] https://xkcd.com/1053/

[1] https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/20/messages/794.ht...

Edit: Removed superfluous comma.




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