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> the whole premise builds atop of how the web and the browser works

Of course not. They need Javascript to participate in forms (though a button on WCs still can't work as a submit button), they need JS to handle global styles, they need JS to handle ARIA (there are at least two different proposals for this), they need JS to fix text selection etc. etc.

Nothing in web components two dozen specs builds on top of basic browser functionality.

> Why do you want web components to work without JS? Do you also put the same constraints on frameworks?

That's bot what I wrote. I'm calling Alex Russel's hypocrisy. He's ranting against web frameworks while he's spent the past decade creating tech that needs more and more JS for basic functionality (and more JS to fix issues previous designs and patches) and is literally advised to be used as only through libraries and frameworks



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