Guardian: <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/21/ross-ulbrich...>

CNN: <https://lite.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/silk-road-ross-ulbr...>

NPR: <https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-d...>

MSN: <https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-pardons-...>

Reuters: <https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pardons-silk-road-fou...>

AP: <https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-pardons-...>

and Truth Social

honestly guys, its time to download Truth Social so you can see what the President and the right is really saying

by the time it hits your feeds elsewhere, it is often times altered just to inflame you and whatever segment of the algorithm's tree you are already pigeonholed in

It seems a lot of reddit communities are starting to block xitter as it's painful to use now without an account. Should HN do the same?

The main reason all the subs made this change today is because of the elon nazi salute, not the fact that twitter is hostile to unauthenticated user agents.

> not the fact that twitter is hostile to unauthenticated user agents.

Yep, Twitter has had aggressive authentication gating for almost 2yrs now and HN frequently has Twitter links

HN often has twitter links when this is the primary source; in that case in comments there are usually links to mirrors or threadreader.

Here twitter is not the main source, there are better ones (both better quality and more user friendly).

I would like a rule to avoid submissions that are login walled unless this is the primary source and an open mirror is available.

I've been on HN since the very beginning and the solution has always been simple: if the post is auth/pay-walled then post archive links or copy paste the text in comments.

I get why there's noise about banning X suddenly but lets not pretend it's for sudden technical/UX concerns. No one is calling for NYT, WSJ, or WaPo submissions to be avoided. Twitter had auth gating for many years before Elon.

That’s my point; like I said:

> I would like a rule to avoid submissions that are login walled unless this is the primary source and an open mirror is available.

Twitter had auth gating but also mirrors; now Nitter is discontinued.

Fair enough. For the record I despise how bad twitters gating is :/

Am I remembering correctly that when Elon first took over, he took that gate down because of his whole free speech thing. I'm guessing they re-instated it as soon as it hit the bottom line. Makes me wonder if government should still rely on it for comms.

Wasn't it because of extensive scraping?

One of the first things Twitter did post Elon was remove sign in gating then I guess the bankers pressed Elon and it went back up. Can't always do everything you want in business, I guess. Bills come first.

I think it was removed by geohot when he was in the house, but then reinstated after a while. I remember him railing against it.

It's an interesting thing to see happen. In seconds, people snapped it and flooded the internet with it. But nothing will happen, because doing a "nazi salute" on accident means nothing.

Yeah, I thought it was interesting that nobody really questioned the relevance of intent over appearance.

If doing a nazi salute isn't sad enough, failing to reclaim it is even sadder

Nah. I just wanted to see a source I trusted to be legitimate before sharing a sensational story.

What far left sources do you consider “trusted”?

I don't think this is responsive to my comment. I'm happy to trust reporting from NYT, Reuters, AP, WSJ, Wapo, Bloomberg, major regional newspapers... it's not a super high or politicized bar. Just something other than "a single twitter account."

True looking nonsense floats to the top of HN semi-regularly; it's not a good enough metric.

No. Let us decide how we want to handle it. Most of us could handle it ourselves through scripts and extensions if it really bothered us anyway.

Of course not, the tweet here is _the_ original source for that news

>it's painful to use now without an account.

Now??? Its been just as painful to use without an account for around 10 years now.

No, it's worse now.

Back in 2017, I could still read public profiles, their tweets, and look at the replies, all without logging in.

Now I can't even look at an account page without logging in.

it's in nytimes