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My point is that bad ideas, values, and ideas are not exclusive to religion, but orthogonal. I see plenty of secular lies and misinformation posted every day as well.

The very first step in nearly every human group is insisting that WE have the answers as long as you `have faith` in us and follow what we tell you to do.

That goes for Republicans, communists, Nazis, or the DNC. Bullshit and unthinking conformance transgresses the boundary of secular and religious ideology.

Do you think the zizan rationalists are free from bullshit because they Atheist? Meanwhile they claim that AI from the future will put people into torture simulations as punishment if they aren't vegan, and that the only rational thing to do is kill your landlord with a katana.



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