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+1. I also enjoy the "China be stealin' ur data and personal info" angle. As if the incumbents haven't already done that, and are still doing it, as their core business practices.

This whole thing should be an eye-opener to most people.

To ask an honest question, who gives a crap if a Chinese company manages to grab data that many of the usual Silicon Valley suspects have had all along and have been incrementally updating? How is this a "threat".

To pile on another gripe, why the hell does every single media outlet point out the "Tienanmen Square" question?

The whole thing has just become embarrassing. I honestly can't fathom what worse China could do with my personal info than the likes of say, Meta. I'm not saying I would enjoy it, but I just don't see how it could be more harmful than the Silicon Valley status quo.



> How is this a "threat".

Given how closely major US tech companies are now affiliated and partnered with the US Federal government, arguably the direct potential threat from them to US citizens may well be higher than from across a very big pond.

People trot out "I'd rather our guys spy on me than them" a lot, but that's putting a lot of faith in your local government. Conversely, who do you think has more to fear from their logged prompts on DeepSeek, US or Chinese citizens?


DeepSeek is more affiliated and partnered with the CCP than US companies are with the US government. Their LLM includes literal government mandated censorship and propaganda. Their CEO met with the premier the other day. And obviously the CCP will be using this tech for military applications very soon. But Chinese citizens themselves will also be further controlled and suppressed through the extensive use of AI and robotics by their own ruling dictatorship.


Tbh their censorship is pretty superficial. I asked about the Tiananmen square events in Russian and it answered in full detail. ChatGPT refuses to talk about "sensitive" topics in any language.


> DeepSeek is more affiliated and partnered with the CCP...

Given what we know about the PRISM program, it's a distinction without much difference.


> Their CEO met with the premier the other day.

Remind me of the list of US tech CEOs who were at (and paid for!) the inauguration?


> Their CEO met with the premier the other day.

While I agree with you overall ... have you heard of Mar a Largo?


I think you missed my point, or I wasn't clear enough. Your point is exactly the one I was trying to make. I think I must re-examine my articulation.


I wasn't arguing against you, rather extending your argument for further effect. Should've prefixed with "Indeed, ...", sorry.


> How is this a "threat".

It is a threat to WallStreet and Silicon Valley. It just broke the illusion that they're kings of tech.

> why the hell does every single media outlet point out the "Tienanmen Square" question?

Sour grapes, but also the media cannot report anything about China without showing its anti-China bias.




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