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I didn't say it wasn't anti colonial at all, but by the time the US got actively involved it was certainly also/mostly a civil war/communist revolution.


Ho Chi Minh petitioned for Vietnamese independence at the Paris Peace Talks in 1919. He was turned down by the Big Four including France's Clemenceau and the United States' Woodrow Wilson.

BTW, the Viet Minh were our allies during WWII.


BTW, the Viet Minh were our allies during WWII.

I’m afraid I don’t understand the point you are making.

Even Mao Zedong’s Communist Party were western allies during World War II.

For that matter Stalin’s Soviet Union was also a western ally during World War II.

After World War II everything changed.

That being said...you make a good point for bringing up the Paris Peace Conference. It is most certainly true that many of the issues in the world today are a direct result of what happened at that Peace Conference. And it is indeed very fascinating that Ho Chi Minh was apparently at that conference.


I think it's more correct to say the CCP allied with the KMT during WWII, or rather during their Second Sino-Japanese War. We made contact with Mao's CCP but the vast amount of supply + support with Chiang Kai-shek’s Nationalists.

My point was that the Viet Minh were people we could work with. We had worked with them during WWII. And by extension, we work with them now. The Vietnamese have a constant fear of being colonized by China. So we don't have to worry about that. Instead we literally forced them to ally with Russia.

Dulles, Johnson, Nixon, ... and that crew were short sighted and stupid, but certain. The Vietnam War was cast as anti-communism to a gullible American public. But the Vietnamese don't see it that way and today it isn't that way.

Now, the US Navy makes port calls in Cam Ranh Bay. There has been no change of regime in Vietnam.

Yeah, Ho Chi Minh was at Paris but not Potsdam. He'd have been great to work with. He even worked in the United States for General Motors. He knew us well.


Ah now I understand what you are saying.

Thank you for clarifying.




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