Have you seen the photos? The situation is out of control. Cops were hiding under bridges while their cars are destroyed by rocks and Molotov cocktails. It’s a shitshow.
I'm not suggesting anything, yesterday I was watching live footage and saw a tear gas grenade fall into a pile of junk near a car and light both on fire. I tried to track down a clip of it but the media is focused so much on waymos it's impossible to sort through the noise. Perhaps in a couple days it'll warrant a story.
Anyway, if the cops weren't there, there'd be no fires. Ergo the cops shouldn't be there. Seems like a pretty simple algebra to me.
The "just submit" ideology that people seem to be touting demonstrates a lack of understanding of American psychology. The country was founded on revolution against a despot, that's the core American value. You can't deal with a population like that by sending in storm troopers, that will obviously just escalate the situation.
The government needs to be realistic about the situation and seek alternative measures if their goal is to deport the neighbors of people who love the 2nd amendment. Perhaps they could simply give up on that goal, that's what I would advise.
> The "just submit" ideology that people seem to be touting demonstrates a lack of understanding of American psychology. The country was founded on revolution against a despot, that's the core American value. You can't deal with a population like that by sending in storm troopers, that will obviously just escalate the situation.
I think you're misunderstanding the audience. The Trump administration is not trying to convince or even deter these protesters, all of this is theater for middle America at home watching this on TV. It's a battle for their votes based on who wins the propaganda war by looking less reasonable on the news.
I meant that there are more than sufficient civilian law enforcement resources to address the problem. Between LAPD, CHP, and the various federal agencies, they could easily surge thousands of officers there if they needed to.
By what authority can they actually use violence to guard these federal workers and buildings? Not the insurection act, and so not at all due to pose comitatus.
Typically their presence alone is enough to stop anything new from happening. In theory they would only need to use enough violence to defend themselves. That's how we got Kent State but in general Kent State was also because the guards in that situation found themselves alone and isolated with little training. In a modern context 60 national guards standing around outside of a downtown highrise with a couple Humvees is unlikely to see any escalation.
