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> Facts is that most of the palestinians fled in the earlier phases of the war, and the very little instances of forced evacuation of the population where within the borders of Israel/Palestine, not out of the country.

People don't leave their homes voluntarily. They leave because of violence or fear of violence. The fact is there were Palestinians living all over the map at the "before" stage. Settlers came to form an ethno-state. The orders given to the Zionist militia commanders were literally "cleanse" this or that village. In the "after" stage, all these people are gone from most of the map and the ones trying to return to their homes are shot dead.

That is ethnic cleansing period. The goal was to create an ethno-state in a place where people already lived. These people have been getting confined to smaller and smaller areas ever since. And the oppression continues to this day.

> Regarding the "State founded on ethnic cleaning", in recent times this includes entire South America, parts of Africa, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

So what? What's your point?



> People don't leave their homes voluntarily. They leave because of violence or fear of violence.

Well the same applies to the Mizrahi Jews who fled Arab countries to Israel.

The Arab countries then seized their properties, which are estimated to add up to multiple times the size of Israel itself.

So on the larger ledger of who owes who reparations, the Arab states clearly owe Israelis more than the other way around.


> Settlers came to form an ethnostate

Zionists like most national movement of the same time goal was to form an ethnostate, just like the palestinian national movement goal was to form an ethnostate, or the czech, polish, ukraine, etc that's pretty obvious

> People don't leave their homes voluntarily

People flee war torn zones, that's not the same thing as ethnic cleansing.

> The orders given to the Zionist militia commanders were literally to "cleanse" that village

Yes, that happened, that doesn't change the fact that most of the population fled on their own accord, that a very sizeable part of the palestinian population remains in Israel to this day, and that the Palestinians were trying to cleanse the Israel population as well (and were successful in a few instances)

> So what? what's your point?

My point is that the horrors you cite are nothing compared to what your very own country was founded on (and that's an educated guess on where you are from, or all countries of the world founding story really)




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