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The five stages of grief:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_stages_of_grief#Stages_of...

> 1. Denial

> 2. Anger

> 3. Bargaining

> 4. Depression

> 5. Acceptance

You are currently somewhere between stage 2

"Then, suddenly, they called us 2 days ago and said they are going to de-activate the Hack Club Slack, including all message history from 11 years, unless we pay them $50,000 USD this week and $200,000 USD/year moving forward (plus additional annual fees for new accounts, including inactive ones) [...] This was an underhanded process by the sales team to raise our rate exorbitantly from a qualified educational 501(c)(3) charity serving young developers or destroy all their projects, DMs and work forever."

and stage 3

"Give us a reasonable amount of time to migrate- and don’t club us over the head like this. We have had an 11 year great relationship with Slack- and have introduced the company to many many future engineers and founders."



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Please don't comment like this on HN. The guidelines ask us all to be kind; they're the first words in the "In Comments" section: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


How is this helpful for the non-profit?

And Kübler-Ross did not describe a linear progression of grief. It was meant to be enough of a framework to start conversations, to put experiences in perspective, to help reflect. And plenty of times, life still has to go on even with devastation -- no time to grieve and reflect until crises has passed.

The wording of the co-founder's comment and the post did not strike me as grief. They are calling out enshittification without trying to burn bridges and requesting help.


What does grief have to do with it?


why would you not be sad about something great you lost ? Even if it was "just a freebie" ?


The non-profit is still in crises mode and can use help. The grief and reflection can come when the crises has passed. Whether it is grief or not, how is describing these stages of grief helpful for the situation as it is right now?


Only in the sense of (helping to) "move on". When you find yourself at the receiving end of monopoly extortion (at least as it appears to you), then best do what you can to get away. It seems they are on that path now.


And they are already migrating things to Mattermost. So again, how does talking about the stages of grief help?


Years of time, effort, and love poured into something that's being pulled out from under you? Surely you're able to feel some empathy for the situation


Years of time, effort, and love poured into something that's being pulled out from under you? Surely you're able to feel some empathy for the situation


Trying to figure out if this was the result of the sheer exhilaration of smashing the post button or a humiliation kink where you want people to yell at you




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