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Let them demonize it. I'll use the capable and cheap model and gain competitive advantage.


Demonization is the first step on the road to criminalization.


Tragically demonization is everywhere right now. I sure hope people start figuring out offramps soon.


LATAM is the only place I'm not hearing about this stuff from, but I only speak English so who knows?


Brazil just convicted an ex-president for that kind of stuff.


I have found zero demonization in the source material (the NIST article). Here is the sense I'm using: "To represent as evil or diabolic: wartime propaganda that demonizes the enemy." [1]

If you disagree, please point to a specific place in the NIST report and explain it.

[1]: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/demonization


Yeah it's absurd how people will defend closed source, even more censored models that cost >20x more for equivalent quality and worse speed

The Chinese companies aren't benchmark obsessed like the western Big Tech ones and qualitatively I feel Kimi, GLM and Deepseek blow them away even though on paper they benchmark worse in English

Kimi gives insanely detailed answers on hardware questions where Gemini and Claude just hallucinate, probably because it uses Chinese training data better




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