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Aerosols diffuse and often (not always depending on airstream) become less dense 6 feet away. Yes if the wind is blowing the density won't be impacted much, but on the other hand the stream will move past you on its own instead of lingering unless there is a dense crowd generating a constant amount.

There were also scary studies coming out of China (though this was later) showing a single positive guy going for a run in a park infecting loads of people. The dynamics have only changed because people have partial immunity now, but it was like wildfire and it is still going up and down in terms of transmission.

To be honest, I think it's fine there was some over-reaction. Millions of people died. I think it's ok to be slightly uncomfortable for a little bit under such extreme circumstances. To be quite honest, there was an under-reaction. We had an opportunity to shut it down and decided not to follow the science like China did because of American exceptionalism. Now we are living with it forever until there is a better vaccine.

China protected their entire population until a vaccine was made available. This means their death rate was likely a third of ours. Their official statistics paint too rosy a picture (they claim only ~60k died), but a simple back of the napkin calculation 0.1% vaccinated die, 1% unvaccinated die, means they did 10x better than let-it-rip. We did something like 3x better than let-it-rip.



If you saw some of the videos from India of their hospitals being overwhelmed and of people being given welding gas for oxygen because they couldn’t produce pure gas fast enough you might not have considered it an overreaction. They were cremating so many people at once it was a major contributor to air pollution during one major outbreak.

The real danger for most people wasn’t the virus, it was the hospitals being so overwhelmed by the virus that they would no longer be able to provide care for other stuff.


Excellent point. Some of this happened in America too, though not to the same horrific extent as India. Iirc hospitals in Florida nearly ran out of oxygen and in some cases patients died for lack of oxygen.


New York City had to bring in extra capacity to store and transport the dead bodies. It happened here. It was that bad here

It was not overblown.

Covid was the #1 killer of cops for a while. It killed enough old people that it is mathematically possible that it caused Trump to lose the election.

Tons of people are permanently disabled.


> China protected their entire population until a vaccine was made available.

China was welding doors shut to keep people from leaving their apartments.


To be fair, in that particular instance they were only welding the back door. They left the front door alone so that people could go out (at their assigned days and times). They got rid of the back door to make it so that community enforcement of these restrictions was possible.

At the level the epidemic reached in some area of China that may have been necessary to slow the flood, no different than rationing during famine.

I have some issues with China (corruption, nepotism, pervasive tracking), but this is not really one of them.


> in that particular instance they were only welding the back door.

It happened more than once.

Uploaded 2022-01-06: Xi’an. Clearly a front door. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/rxddgp/chin...

Uploaded 2022-05-03: Residents locked inside homes with wires and bolts due to Covid-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpfKZVTSp3I

Uploaded 2022-05-06: Shanghai https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/ujoj33/in_...

Uploaded 2022-11-30: Unidentified city; worker shown welding a back entrance shut. https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/z8fpzy/...


remember how in america the police were literally attacking people in the summer of 2020 and some died?


Does this have something to do with China or are you just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks?




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