I definitely choose the second of your two outcomes. That it includes all sorts of things that you think are not meaningfully alive. But these things are actually life.

Yes, living things locally decrease entropy and that’s my point.

And maybe I should’ve been more clear for people who cannot grasp new understandings, anything that can decrease its own entropy is living.

I mean, do you think life has nothing to do with the organization matter into a lower entropy state?