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Because lack of "prior art" is not a requirement for trademark, nor is uniqueness.

"Coke" has other meanings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(fuel) and yet is still trademarked.



That said, isn't it the case that one can't just take something that exists in common usage and trademark it as-is?

For example, the basic structure of the fairy tale about Aladdin and the magic lamp had been around for a long time, and was clearly not originated by Disney. Consequently, Disney has no right to claim trademark or copyright control over the name Aladdin or or anything generally related to the story. They only get rights over their own work - additions they made to the story, characters' appearances, etc.

Similarly, Games Workshop shouldn't be able to own the phrase 'space marines'. At most, all they should get to control is the use of the name Space Marines to describe the surgically-enhanced cybernetic super-soldiers that are peculiar to their franchise.


Was "space marine" in common usage in 1987, though? The fact that it exists in a long out-of-print pulp novel doesn't mean that everyone understood its meaning. Again, this isn't a patent. All that's required is that, when the trademark was registered, GW's usage of the term was unique and relevant to their business.


Aliens came out in 1986. I don't know how much more common you need to be than that.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090605/

I'd personally been using the term since growing up watching Star Blazers cartoons in the 70s.


As pointed out elsewhere, the grunts in Aliens were not "space marines". Once again: this is a trademark. GW doesn't have a monopoly on the idea of "Sci-Fi Marines". They have a trademark on the specific term "Space Marine" as used within their realms of business. That includes fiction, so the linked post was infringing. Sorry, but it was.


Sorry, but they did use "space marines"

EX: "ALIENS SPACE MARINE LT.RIPLEY" http://www.amazon.com/ALIENS-SPACE-MARINE-LT-RIPLEY/dp/B0009...


When was that figure made? Ripley wasn't even a marine, of any sort, in the movies.


Arrgh. AGAIN: it's not a patent! "Prior art" proves nothing. If this figure's manufacturer was not a going business venture in 1987 (or whenever GW filed that trademark) then GW was entirely within their rights to file such a trademark.

And even if this was 100% contemporaneous, the party with standing to challenge that trademark would be the toy company, and not the linked post. The remedy would be to immunize the toy company from GW, or perhaps to award them damages due to GW's mark causing loss of sales.


He's not claiming that their trademark is invalid because of "prior art", he is saying that they should not have a trademark on the term in the same way that Tropicana should not be permitted to have a trademark on "orange juice".

That is to say, "space marine" and "orange juice" are both clearly descriptive marks. That "space marine" is a descriptive mark is evidenced by it's long history of usage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_distinctiveness


The article says GW is claiming an implicit or common law trademark rather than a registered one. The rules for that are far more grounded in equity than the rule based statutory system.

Edit: that is to say the expansion into the book market is a common law extension. To be clear the mark was registered in the game market.


As other people have pointed out, in the United States, GW's trademark for "Space Marines" does not include fiction in their "realms of business." So this is extremely dubious on its face.

Furthermore, under UK law, a trademark can be invalidated on "absolute grounds" which "cover defects in the trade mark itself":

The most common absolute ground for invalidation is that the trade mark is descriptive of the registered goods and/or services, or that it is generic for those goods/services, or otherwise non-distinctive and should therefore be free for everyone to use.

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/invalidtm.pdf

And, actually, according to that law, anyone can apply to have the mark declared invalid on absolute grounds.

The underlying issue at hand -- and this applies to American law as well -- isn't precisely about "prior art." It's about whether the phrase "space marine" is already too generic for the trademark to hold, especially when applied to fiction. "Marine" certainly isn't a GW trademark; this whole claim is predicated on the notion that it becomes uniquely theirs when the word "space" is put in front of it.

...so the linked post was infringing. Sorry, but it was.

That's not the question, is it? The question is whether it should be infringing.


Not just obscure pulp. Heinlein, for example, is one of the notable users of the term.


Alien came out in 1979. Aliens in 1986.

I would say it was in common usage.


We're they "space marines" or "colonial marines?"


I believe you're correct on the official name. I would make a case that most people thought of them as Space Marines though.


Apparently the term 'space marine' was never used in the movies, but the alien-themed toys by Kenner from 1992 do use it.


Would the fact that GW didn't enforce against that use be enough to invalidate their original 1987 claim?


Maybe if we also dug up a whole library of other fiction and toys/games using the term as well.


Trade | Service Marks are so different than Copyright that they should not be mentioned in same sentence.

Aladdin seems to be a TM http://www.trademarkencyclopedia.com/aladdin/ http://www.aladdinlamps.com/ViewPage.asp?PageID=5

The most basic thing you and everyone reading this needs to take away is that "should" != "law". Beyond that learn what Registered Marks are, the rights and responsibilities of owning one. It's not hard to get a correct if layperson's understanding. (something 90+% of posting online lack)


That said, isn't it the case that one can't just take something that exists in common usage and trademark it as-is?

No. You can totally do that as long as nobody has trademarked it in a similar context.


No. You can totally do that as long as nobody has trademarked it in a similar context.

Only as long as you pass the requirements of local trademark law, which space marine arguably doesn't in most jurisdictions when used with it's generic meaning:

It's fine to call a pane of glass embedded into a wall a window, it's fine to call a certain kind of fruit an apple and it should be fine to call a marine serving on a space ship a space marine, regardless of any trademarks involving these terms.


But can the Coca Cola Company enforce its "Coke" trade mark against purveyors of fossil fuel derived coke products? It's silly to think that Coca Cola would try; and nothing at all like GW trying to bogart parts of the common sci-fi vernacular.


"Coke" has other meanings in a different industry. "Space Marine" has prior art in the same industry.




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