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It's funny you would fall so hard for the mock outrage of our European politicians. Please.

If the US says jump, they say how high. They couldn't be happier the US is letting them join in their war games. The USA and Europe are united in their total servitude to big business - those who pay the bills call the tunes. Goldman Sachs is international, they've bought up Politicians on both sides of the pond. Same for other big players.

In the case of espionage - they are embarrassed; but the outrage displayed is just for show, and the "consequences" they speak of are just sound bites for the press. There isn't a thing more harmless than a threat by a European politician.



I wasn't actually falling for it, I was mocking the breathless paranoia I've been seeing here of late.


It was kind of hard to be sure - the top post on this thread is literally calling for the expulsion of all Americans from Europe.


Poe's Law has come home to roost on Hacker News...


At this point I've basically decided this whole thing has moved past Logos here to complete Pathos. That top post is somewhat disheartening to be honest as it seems to wholeheartedly ignore even Europes own sordid past.

I'm sure there will be fallout but sometimes I swear there is a latent anger from certain Europeans on the Internet, note I've never seen this in person yet or to the degree I see online, that makes me feel like all Americans are being viewed as some sort of demonic entity. I'm starting to think vacations to Europe aren't a good idea because I'm getting a completely unnerving vibe that I'll be viewed that way just for visiting.

Aka: the exact same thing people from Europe have been saying about never visiting the USA for reason XYZ. The vitriol is starting to make me want to just visit Russia or China or anywhere else instead. If people don't want to be civil about where I live fine, I can be pathological too.




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