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But why do they care so much about hours and not about output? I would kind of understand if this was for some web technologies since older devs might not be up to speed with the latest compile-to-JS language but I can't imagine that someone who has been writing say C++ for the last 20 years would not perform better than someone fresh out of school.


The short answer is that they can't measure output. It's extremely hard for a layman to know exactly how much value he's getting out of a programmer except through another, more skilled programmer.

There's probably a business idea there.


Most starts ups aren't using C++. 90% of starts up do the "latest compile-to-JS language" thing.


That's because 90% of startups have only the most shallow bit of innovation going on, but they want to seem hip and au currant.

So they use whatever the latest angular clone is.


I think a much more charitable interpretation flies: there is a reason people invent new technology (it's better on at least one dimension than the old), and startups aren't held back by legacy considerations.


Well AFAIK FB uses C++ and they are mentioned as one of the companies using these hiring practices.


I would not call Facebook a start up anymore. They are creating their own VMs and Database systems. Most start ups don't do that. Unless that's the product.


Well I didn't call them a startup. And they are creating their own VMs and DBs which is even more reason not to hire only devs who are fresh out of school.


I did specifically state start ups. I don't live in san fransico/silicon valley, but where I live the vast majority of developers are working for small start ups and small businesses and not the facebooks of the world.


> 90% of starts up do the "latest compile-to-JS language" thing.

Sounds like an accurate statistical sampling to me.


Its not meant to be accurate sampling, its hyperbole to prove a point.

But you can see for yourself. Have a look at most jobs at start ups, they're always javascript/ruby/python/fancy new framework or mobile apps to reinvent online shopping or web site analytics or something.


You characterize the popular startup languages as being "compile-to-JS" to prove that they're all mostly in the family of dynamic scripting languages?


No. To state they are mostly trend based, and superficial.


Hey, leave Python out of it :)


Because half of these guys are under 30 and they don't want to hire someone who reminds them of their dad.




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