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The best thing for users maybe. A special kind of hell for the people investigating. And since there are numerous non paying users vs only so many people who have the skills to fix things...

It's incredibly useful to know what problems your users are facing. It doesn't necessarily mean fixing any one particular bug, rather should help prioritize future work.

Of course the developers only want to interact with other developers, never those stinky users who don't even know the proper technical jargon for the bugs they're finding. But that doesn't mean we should pander to developer wishes.

I'm sure if the "stinky users" have a support contract then someone will be happy to look at any kind of report and try to triage or reproduce. Otherwise the least they can do is figure out Bugzilla signup.

> I'm sure if the "stinky users" have a support contract then someone will be happy to look at any kind of report

I'm sure you know that's not true. I'm sure you know that developers hate taking bug reports from users even when those users have support contracts.


The case being discussed here is LibreOffice. Yes in general that is also true, but non paying users don't contribute anything. If they paid at least there's an expectation of fixes. Or at least the money can be used to hire a separate support team.

That's for the Stripe customer to configure. Stripe itself has supported 3DS since ages ago.

Edit: also you'll find a pretty common sentiment among US website owners is that the new API that supports 3DS is overcomplicated and they want their 7 lines of code create-a-charge-with-a-token back. Screw the Europeans because they only care about US buyers anyway.


Well it's not like I buy many physical goods from US companies (and amazon US is fine, even handles customs for me).

Keeping my subscriptions to Asimov's and Ars Technica is becoming a pain though because ... Stripe I guess. Ars staff even confirmed it.

A Revolut card works fine, local banks' cards deny the charge by default and if you're lucky they call you and ask if they should allow it.


If you depend on a library and can't figure out how you would compile against it, it's probably better for the end user that you don't make anything because you'll still need to package it up later unless you link statically.


Didn't know those had a name but that only applies to half the wood frame buildings I lived in. The other ones had no "1" (I assume the foundation/slab was concrete though).

AGPLv3 so not exactly a drop in replacement, license-wise.

France has CB. Germany has girocard. The entire problem is that these are national and not interoperable across the EU.


I don't know for France, but in Germany, they did everything they could to reduce Girocard usage. Today, every bank offers Visa debit, but if you want Girocard, it's difficult to find a bank that offers it.

There's nothing wrong with having national cards, since >90% of transactions are national anyway. That's how German Girocard worked for decades until the coordinated push to switch to Visa Debit happened.

And the government did nothing to protect domestic payment systems. As if they value foreign dependency more than the independence.


I set up accounts in two different German banks. Both gave me girocard by default. I had to request Visa from one to attach to google wallet. I have no idea how to request Visa from the other bank.


I can't believe this was downvoted. Seriously a Certificate is binding a public key and the attributes (mainly the identity). If you don't need to use the attributes, you don't need a certificate!


Genghis Khan also not too bad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Mongolica

Whose peace are we now living under and what atrocities did they commit to establish it?


I think this is a rationalization. Humans are always tempted to look up to power, and what's more powerful than an empire? It goes unquestioned that we should respect the Roman empire, for instance, and you pretty often see an argument for the Mongolian empire. But these days, we know that violence is bad so we have to find other reasons to justify our feelings. So we talk about the "peace" they established after all the war. But is the cost really worth it? How many people not attacked by bandits do you need to justify an innocent murdered by raiding soldiers? Never mind that even the "peace" is often sustained through oppression. The Romans didn't invent crucifixion for Jesus, it's something they did. Never mind that the empire never lasts, and plants seeds of the next dozen wars as it falls, watered with yet more blood.

Ask yourself: if you honestly intended to create peace, would a century or more (in the case of Rome) of bloody conquest actually be the optimal plan? I would say no. An actual plan for peace through strength looks more like NATO than Rome.

Any good an empire builder does is accidental. Whatever they tell you or even themselves, they do it for glory and power, and their actions are optimized for that over any actual benefits. They were not nobler than the conquerors and colonizers were rightfully decry today.


Sometimes you have to do a lot of things that look very bad in order to do some greater good that overshadows all the bad you did.


I thought American space flight etc was directly indebted to the people behind the V bombs? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip


The Saturn V was simply a scaled up V2. The critical components were all there:

1. boundary layer cooling

2. pre-heating fuel and cooling the nozzle by pushing the fuel through tubes in the nozzle

3. baffles to prevent pogo-ing

4. turbo fuel pumps

5. supersonic airframe

6. guidance system (although primitive)

The V2 was an ineffective military weapon that did little damage - because its guidance system was too primitive to be able to hit a target. Hitler also poured enormous resources into the V2 program, shifted away from producing weapons that were effective.


Isn't OpenJ9 "just" the VM and not the class library? Also it's IBM-backed so it's more a case of pick your poison there.


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