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> Some things are best kept between your close trusted friends and family or therapist, no matter how trendy the culture is about being “open”.

This makes total sense if you have a therapist and / or have friends you can be vulnerable with (and know how to). But there are undoubtedly those who do not have that. For them the risk of career sabotage vs a change of improved quality of life might be worth considering. I don't know where the breakdown is, probably against mandatory sharing in the work setting on the account of an average workspace being pretty adversarial. However, if I could make a call for my younger self I would choose to share.



> For them the risk of career sabotage vs a change of improved quality of life might be worth considering

The risk is way too high


I also agree with this sentiment but at the same time I think it boils down to how you interpret these things , for op it was one of the greatest things but to somebody else , this makes boss not likeable.

I think this shows that the boss was going out of his way which I "personally" appreciate.

I don't know what people expect managers / boss to do. Somebody on team expects their boss to X and somebody else on that same team expects their boss to be anything but X.

If I ever become a manager , I am probably taking this boss's approach , I think its good to have some talks like this. I am also much inspired by the likes of charles schwab and dale carnegie's how to win friends and influence people so probably there is a bias here


> I don't know what people expect managers / boss to do

What they do should be related to the company work, otherwise they're overstepping. They're not social workers. They have to respect the privacy and independence of their coworkers.

> If I ever become a manager , I am probably taking this boss's approach

Please don't. Coworkers can obviously have social relationships but they should grow organically without being "managed".

You know the best way for that to happen is? Let them work together. They'll build their own relationships. They don't need your help. If they don't work together enough for this to happen naturally then they're strangers to each other anyway and that's ok too.


If you were my boss and did this I'd be going to my skip manager to complain.


It sounded like an optional request not a command. I’ve managed and I’ve been managed and the relationship ships I’ve built along the way are deep enough to have conversations like these. We’re doing life with this people it’s not a dystopian novel about capitalism. If you have a genuine person as your boss moments like these help form friendships, and don’t feel like a dark Dilbert comic.

Friendships increase team communicability which bolster project success.


An "optional request" in a public group setting like that is not optional. You were non-optionally forced to respond to the challenge one way or another. If you don't share, then you're the guy who opted not to share. It turns off the touchy feely types who like it and don't understand the problem and can be "not a team player" fodder for anyone who wants it.

The actual respectful and considerate way is not to put people in such positions in the first place.

Like asking something from someone where it would be some unusual imposition or favor (like something that would be ok to ask a friend or family but not a mere aquaintance) and telling them it's ok if they say no. That is an empty statement. You were not supposed to put them in the position where they had to say no.

You can allow for people to not be robots without putting other people into awkward positions they didn't deserve to be put in.

It's definitely favoring some people at the expense of others. Like the gp comment, now they not only have to do their normal job, they also have to generate bs for their manager. The manager should be the one who has to figure out how to work with their different people, not the other way around. That is the managers explicit role that they supposedly get paid more for and what gives them the authority to manage and judge anyone else. That's their actual job rather than coding or whatever. Instead, they are making their team members all conform to them, on top of their actual jobs which are supposed to be something other than managing people.


Everything in life is optional.


A manager asking you to do something is never “just” an optional request


They absolutely can be. You can push back against your manager.


Still, you'd rather save your push back privileges - which come with a cost - for something actually important and work-related. Not for random crap like that, being put on the spot randomly in a personal way.


Use it and get more pushback power plus get caution when manager approaches. Getting labelled get can benefits and negatives.


I said no to things and world did not ended. You absolutely can say no. If you can't, you need to change the team or job.


> Friendships increase team communicability which bolster project success.

I've read that, too, e.g. something from Google about psychological safety.

It seems to me that these "be 10% more vulnerable" increases safety / friendship for some people,

but decreases it for others who don't want to share anything.

Maybe there's better ways to go about increasing psychological safety ... For example, about Psychological Safety on Wikipedia:

> Two aspects of leadership have been shown to be particularly instrumental in creating a psychologically safe team. They are leaders using:

> Participatory management > Inclusive management

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_safety

Here's a nice comment (in this discussion): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42026278


Thank you for this comment. I know the US is different from where I live, but the distrust shown in other comments just made me very depressed.


This has nothing to do with it. I'm not from the US and I find this deeply unprofessional.


I mean, I am a manager and if I saw another manager doing this type of exercise I would probably report it because it seems extremely inappropriate and they would probably want a heads up that we have a manager trying to be a wannabe therapist rather than trying to foster a safe and productive team environment.




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